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The constant filming from every angle is what makes me even more confused when you need to personally tell employees that something is broken somewhere, or the

The constant filming from every angle is what makes me even more confused when you need to personally tell employees that something is broken somewhere, or the queue for the cash register is miles long, or some sales point isn't staffed and has people waiting. Everything is being watched, why aren't they reacting proactively?

AnthonyMouse 4y ago
Large corporations assign people roles. The person watching the cameras is there to detect shoplifting. They have no stake in the success of the store. If you want to see a shopkeeper care about that sort of thing, patronize an owner-operated small business.
- luckylion 4y ago
  I don't know about small, but the store I usually shop at is owner-operated (though part of a owner-coop in Germany), but they don't do it. I get the point of shoplifting watchers not caring about queues, but am I just naive that this should be easy enough to solve with tech? You have lots of images from multiple directions, you know how the store looks empty, you can probably do a decent-enough image discovery to find out roughly where people are. If there are 15 people in front of the checkout, ring a small bell somewhere and have a person check whether it's time to open another checkout. I can shop, scan the products while I walk through the shop with my phone, pay with the app and open a gate to bet let out with my purchased goods, but the computer can't use the camera signal to figure out how where people are?
  - AnthonyMouse 4y ago
    The tech is redundant. The people working in the store can see with their eyes how long the queue is. They don't need a machine to ring a bell. They have a brain. But not an incentive to use it.
kube-system 4y ago
Because the person watching is performing a specific task, not every task.
pessimizer 4y ago
Cameras film, people watch. They're not willing to pay more cashiers, they're certainly not willing to pay a bunch of people to stare at cameras all day. Instead it's zero, one or two people. They have enough on their plate just virtually following visually suspicious people through the store. edit: I include zero because a lot of it is seeing that a "suspicious type" has entered the store, and running to the back room to watch their every move until they leave.
dumpsterlid 4y ago
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AnthonyMouse 4y ago

Large corporations assign people roles. The person watching the cameras is there to detect shoplifting. They have no stake in the success of the store. If you want to see a shopkeeper care about that sort of thing, patronize an owner-operated small business.

luckylion 4y ago
I don't know about small, but the store I usually shop at is owner-operated (though part of a owner-coop in Germany), but they don't do it. I get the point of shoplifting watchers not caring about queues, but am I just naive that this should be easy enough to solve with tech? You have lots of images from multiple directions, you know how the store looks empty, you can probably do a decent-enough image discovery to find out roughly where people are. If there are 15 people in front of the checkout, ring a small bell somewhere and have a person check whether it's time to open another checkout. I can shop, scan the products while I walk through the shop with my phone, pay with the app and open a gate to bet let out with my purchased goods, but the computer can't use the camera signal to figure out how where people are?
- AnthonyMouse 4y ago
  The tech is redundant. The people working in the store can see with their eyes how long the queue is. They don't need a machine to ring a bell. They have a brain. But not an incentive to use it.

kube-system 4y ago

Because the person watching is performing a specific task, not every task.

pessimizer 4y ago

Cameras film, people watch. They're not willing to pay more cashiers, they're certainly not willing to pay a bunch of people to stare at cameras all day. Instead it's zero, one or two people. They have enough on their plate just virtually following visually suspicious people through the store. edit: I include zero because a lot of it is seeing that a "suspicious type" has entered the store, and running to the back room to watch their every move until they leave.

dumpsterlid 4y ago

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