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Cocoa powder and milk powder (or more rarely condensed milk) are expensive and contribute to taste and / or texture. To make cheaper chocolate you increase sug

Cocoa powder and milk powder (or more rarely condensed milk) are expensive and contribute to taste and / or texture. To make cheaper chocolate you increase sugar to save on cocoa (there's a hard lower limit of cocoa content however in many countries and the EU) and milk. Vegan milk-like chocolate also has lower protein contents, but in my opinion it's a different product where this rule of thumb does not apply.

crazygringo 4y ago
OK, what percentage cocoa solids and milk solids do you think Toblerone should have? Because they're already at 28% and 14% respectively. Which seems like plenty, they're not skimping. For comparison, for example, Cailler is 28% and 20% respectively, which is a little bit more milk but that's all. [1] Toblerone doesn't seem like "cheap chocolate". It's just slightly less milky than another premium brand, and has other ingredients like almonds and honey. [1] https://swissmade.direct/shop/swiss-food-and-drink/chocolate/chocolate-bar/cailler-milk-chocolate-100g/ https://swissmade.direct/shop/swiss-food-and-drink/chocolate...
- sys42590 4y ago
  Toblerone has 62% of sugar, I'd personally consider anything beyond 55% of sugar as cheap chocolate. Also 28% of cocoa is definitely on the lower end, I expect quality chocolate to be at 30% of cocoa.
  - crazygringo 4y ago
    Then you shouldn't buy milk chocolate. Milk chocolate is for people who like sweetness and want a lot of it. Toblerone is candy, remember. You should be buying dark chocolate of your desired cocoa percentage, and leave the (high-quality) sugary chocolate for those who want it. But without telling them their chocolate is cheap, because it isn't. There's no need to be judgmental about people's chocolate choices.
    - sys42590 4y ago
      I agree that Toblerone is candy. This also explains why it's hard to find good Swiss or Belgian (e.g. Leonidas) chocolate that matches the 62% sugar content of Toblerone.

crazygringo 4y ago

OK, what percentage cocoa solids and milk solids do you think Toblerone should have? Because they're already at 28% and 14% respectively. Which seems like plenty, they're not skimping. For comparison, for example, Cailler is 28% and 20% respectively, which is a little bit more milk but that's all. [1] Toblerone doesn't seem like "cheap chocolate". It's just slightly less milky than another premium brand, and has other ingredients like almonds and honey. [1] https://swissmade.direct/shop/swiss-food-and-drink/chocolate/chocolate-bar/cailler-milk-chocolate-100g/ https://swissmade.direct/shop/swiss-food-and-drink/chocolate...

sys42590 4y ago
Toblerone has 62% of sugar, I'd personally consider anything beyond 55% of sugar as cheap chocolate. Also 28% of cocoa is definitely on the lower end, I expect quality chocolate to be at 30% of cocoa.
- crazygringo 4y ago
  Then you shouldn't buy milk chocolate. Milk chocolate is for people who like sweetness and want a lot of it. Toblerone is candy, remember. You should be buying dark chocolate of your desired cocoa percentage, and leave the (high-quality) sugary chocolate for those who want it. But without telling them their chocolate is cheap, because it isn't. There's no need to be judgmental about people's chocolate choices.
  - sys42590 4y ago
    I agree that Toblerone is candy. This also explains why it's hard to find good Swiss or Belgian (e.g. Leonidas) chocolate that matches the 62% sugar content of Toblerone.