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If they were really scared of more NATO invading Ukraine is the fastest way to get a larger border with NATO (win or lose).
by andy_ppp 4y ago
If they were really scared of more NATO invading Ukraine is the fastest way to get a larger border with NATO (win or lose).
- andrewflnr 4y agoI think they were planning to set up a puppet government as a buffer. Throw out the "nazis", "restore" the "rightful" something something... even just making the Donbass republics a real thing would have helped. Reality intervened, obviously. I bet they weren't betting on Finland bidding to join NATO, either.
- s1artibartfast 4y agoUkraine joining NATO has been a hotbutton topic for the last 10 years. It was decided 6 months before the invasion that it would Ukraine would join, and I don't the two facts are entirely unrelated.
- ginko 4y agoYou can't join NATO if you have an ongoing territorial dispute. Ukraine would have been unable to join while Crimea and parts of Donbass/Luhansk were occupied.
- s1artibartfast 4y agoI agree this has been a prerequisite for full NATO ascension so far. However, The process starts with a promise of NATO membership which was given. Since 2014 NATO has has operated several trust funds and aid packages to modernize the Ukrainian military. There has also been a NATO/US presence in Ukraine, training, and joint exercises. Prior to the war, Ukraine sought entry despite ongoing conflicts, claiming "NATO is the only way to end the war in Donbas". Since the start of the war, Former US Ambassador to NATO and others have called for Ukraine to be offered membership, despite territorial conflicts.
- thr717272 4y ago"Russia only feel their borders are safe when there are Russian soldiers on both sides of them" is a saying I read recently.
- andy_ppp 4y agoThey have the worlds largest stockpile of nuclear weapons… nobody has adequately been able to explain how NATO or someone else would invade such a country.
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