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It’s a fantastic step forward, making commuting with public transport much more affordable for many. But another nice thing about the 9€ ticket was that it got

by w-m 4y ago

It’s a fantastic step forward, making commuting with public transport much more affordable for many. But another nice thing about the 9€ ticket was that it got rid of all other tickets for occasional users, too. If you’re using public transport just a few times each month, 49€ is too high, and you will still have to deal with 4x tickets short tickets, AB/BC/ABC zones, day tickets and whatnot. Which is unfortunate, as that’s annoying, and they have to keep the complicated ticket vending infrastructure in place as well.

alexanderchr 4y ago
Would be nice if it was complemented with a €2 hour ticket, a €5 day ticket and a €20 week ticket, then they could probably get rid of the other tickets.
- dathinab 4y ago
  Nice yes, but... Part of the reason why the 49€ ticket is that cheap (compared to a lot of other monthy more limited local tickets) is because you commit to it for a month. This ticket is meant to make abandoning cars easier for Germans and be also a nice pressure reduction for some of the people hit hardest by inflation (low income, can't afford a car anyway(1), but not (nearly) no income in which case the state pays your ticker anyway (oversimplified)). Providing a hour, day or week ticket would defeat that purpose. It's explicitly not meant to reduce cost for people which have a car and just from time to time buy a ticker or tourists (through it's still grate for tourists which tour multiple cities in Germany if they stay ~2 weeks even through they "lose" 2 weeks).
  - w-m 4y ago
    I disagree wholeheartedly. People who have a car should absolutely have cheaper and less complicated ticket options, so that they leave their car at home more often.
    - dathinab 4y ago
      well that is why some argue that buying the 49€ ticket should be mandatory for anyone owning a car. Funnily the people I know who say so are car owners which mostly use cars and hardly ever the train, but they are also rather well off.
panick21_ 4y ago
Its not about commuting. I hate the focus on commuting. Its about living, doing everything you want to do whenever you want to do it, its not just about going to work and back.

by w-m 4y ago

alexanderchr 4y ago

Would be nice if it was complemented with a €2 hour ticket, a €5 day ticket and a €20 week ticket, then they could probably get rid of the other tickets.

dathinab 4y ago
Nice yes, but... Part of the reason why the 49€ ticket is that cheap (compared to a lot of other monthy more limited local tickets) is because you commit to it for a month. This ticket is meant to make abandoning cars easier for Germans and be also a nice pressure reduction for some of the people hit hardest by inflation (low income, can't afford a car anyway(1), but not (nearly) no income in which case the state pays your ticker anyway (oversimplified)). Providing a hour, day or week ticket would defeat that purpose. It's explicitly not meant to reduce cost for people which have a car and just from time to time buy a ticker or tourists (through it's still grate for tourists which tour multiple cities in Germany if they stay ~2 weeks even through they "lose" 2 weeks).
- w-m 4y ago
  I disagree wholeheartedly. People who have a car should absolutely have cheaper and less complicated ticket options, so that they leave their car at home more often.
  - dathinab 4y ago
    well that is why some argue that buying the 49€ ticket should be mandatory for anyone owning a car. Funnily the people I know who say so are car owners which mostly use cars and hardly ever the train, but they are also rather well off.

panick21_ 4y ago

Its not about commuting. I hate the focus on commuting. Its about living, doing everything you want to do whenever you want to do it, its not just about going to work and back.