To be honest, this notational tool of thought feeling I really don't have with any of the popular languages. It is indeed like a natural language you are learni

To be honest, this notational tool of thought feeling I really don't have with any of the popular languages. It is indeed like a natural language you are learning or one you are fluent in; when you are learning you have to translate to your native language all the time; when you are fluent, it just flows. That's the difference. I used to have it with Basic, C and Pascal, but never as much as with apl/k. Even those are recent for me. I had it with Prolog in university doing a major tract in symbolic NLP (my natural speech and dreams sometimes where in Prolog; that when talking with someone, I would actually just for clauses automatically). I find, personally, that joy of programming is vastly less using libraries than it is just having a fixed amount of functions and stdlib you know by hard and get fluent at. But did you see / try BQN? I think it's an interesting attempt. And well built.