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How is this unexpected? AI agents that interact via language and are able to write code which improves itself is classic singularity. It basically describes HA

by enkid 4y ago

How is this unexpected? AI agents that interact via language and are able to write code which improves itself is classic singularity. It basically describes HAL from 2001.

ihateolives 4y ago
> AI agents that interact via language Via English. I'll be inclined to believe we have general AI when it teaches itself language that is not widely available on the internet.
- pmoriarty 4y ago
  The goal posts are always moving.
- throwaway4aday 4y ago
  How would anyone teach themselves a language without having access to it?
Brian_K_White 4y ago
There was no singularity in 2001. Or in the entire series.
- enkid 4y ago
  2001 is prior to the concept of the singularity being well articulated, but the HAL artificial intelligence clearly fed ideas for what an advanced AI could do for future fiction.
  - Brian_K_White 4y ago
    Maybe the progenitors had a singularity. It's off-camera and not even imagined in the story but after the fact we can see that it would at least not be inconsistent. But almost anything can be said not to conflict with almost anything off-camera. All I think 2001 depicts is a transcendence. A level up. And actually that was all Dave being levelled up. I don't remember Hal being all that important at all. Some transcended elders or their left-behind machines picked up Dave and gave him the VGER treatment (give god powers to the insect) and afterwards, we mere humans can still follow his train of thought as he comes back home. To me a singularity is something you can't even imagine. If you can make any sort of sense of something at all, then it's still contemporary and not a singularity. It's just a faster car than last years. AI that becomes smarter than us and take over is not a singularity. That's just the Europeans wiping out the native Americans. Compute power could probably produce a singularity. What happens when Jupiter is converted into solid compute? So it's merely adjacent. But a smart ai is not the definition of a singularity.

by enkid 4y ago

How is this unexpected? AI agents that interact via language and are able to write code which improves itself is classic singularity. It basically describes HAL from 2001.

ihateolives 4y ago

> AI agents that interact via language Via English. I'll be inclined to believe we have general AI when it teaches itself language that is not widely available on the internet.

pmoriarty 4y ago
The goal posts are always moving.
throwaway4aday 4y ago
How would anyone teach themselves a language without having access to it?

Brian_K_White 4y ago

There was no singularity in 2001. Or in the entire series.

enkid 4y ago
2001 is prior to the concept of the singularity being well articulated, but the HAL artificial intelligence clearly fed ideas for what an advanced AI could do for future fiction.
- Brian_K_White 4y ago
  Maybe the progenitors had a singularity. It's off-camera and not even imagined in the story but after the fact we can see that it would at least not be inconsistent. But almost anything can be said not to conflict with almost anything off-camera. All I think 2001 depicts is a transcendence. A level up. And actually that was all Dave being levelled up. I don't remember Hal being all that important at all. Some transcended elders or their left-behind machines picked up Dave and gave him the VGER treatment (give god powers to the insect) and afterwards, we mere humans can still follow his train of thought as he comes back home. To me a singularity is something you can't even imagine. If you can make any sort of sense of something at all, then it's still contemporary and not a singularity. It's just a faster car than last years. AI that becomes smarter than us and take over is not a singularity. That's just the Europeans wiping out the native Americans. Compute power could probably produce a singularity. What happens when Jupiter is converted into solid compute? So it's merely adjacent. But a smart ai is not the definition of a singularity.