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Bloomberg's value is the timely access to data and analysis. What data does the provide? I didn't see it on the page.

by supahfly_remix 4y ago

nuthje 4y ago
Main value is the chat still.
- jshaqaw 4y ago
  For equities that is true and most Bloomberg functionality can be replicated with Sat Interactive Brokers plus some data subscriptions. Doing fixed income manually without the data pre populated in Bloomberg is very painful. But yes, the chat is where the franchise is and recent SEC actions punishing any non compliant communications like texts or alternative messaging services with massive fines have only given that moat another decade at least of invulnerability.
  - jcrben 4y ago
    What is Sat Interactive Brokers? I've used Interactive Brokers for a long time and never heard of Sat.
  - xmcqdpt2 4y ago
    There are other non-Bloomberg compliant chat applications. Symphony is the big one https://symphony.com/ https://symphony.com/ but also whatsapp and imessage from company-owned devices. The fines were about chat communications from personal devices.
    - hackernewds 4y ago
      I think you're missing the point. it's not the chat application. it's the participants that are in the chat in Bloomberg
      - sexy_year 4y ago
        True
    - jshaqaw 4y ago
      Maybe in theory. The message I get from almost everyone at a regulated institution is Bloomberg, e-mail, or voice. When the SEC is on a warpath, compliance and legal departments don’t play with anything but the clearest black and white lines to optimize for the convenience of staff. It is frustrating because it imposes a monopoly tax on financial market participants to get a Bloomberg or be shut out of information flow which is death in markets. I’ve yet to find anyone I deal with who says hey find me on Symphony.
      - xmcqdpt2 4y ago
        I work at a financial institution and it's symphony for internal communications. I much prefer it to teams tbh.
- detourdog 4y ago
  That is what I heard terminal was the membership fee to chat and Veblen good of office power.
  - xyzelement 4y ago
    Who did you hear that from? Bloomberg provides you normalized data across all asset classes, cross asset portfolio analytics and management tools. First party trading venues, access to the world's largest broker network, immediate access to news including news sentiment indicators across the terminal offering. Access to it's own brokerage (trade book is still a thing I think), buyside and sell side Order Management platforms, APIs to feed the same stuff into your excel and servers. Did I mention all this tooling is engineered to be compliant across regulatory regimes. So yes chat is important and having a BB terminal definitely separates the men from the boys but that's additional to the indispensable functionality the platform itself provides.
    - detourdog 4y ago
      It was a single person office that acted as a black box between traders. He had aBloomberg terminal to do it all.
- boppo1 4y ago
  How does BBG chat compare to other internet chat? Does it get as raucous?
deconstruct 4y ago
I had the same question. It looks to me that you have to add API keys for data sources. Although a lot of work no doubt has gone into this, it seems to me like a bit of a pointless project if someone then must source their own data from various (and varying in quality and price) APIs. As mentioned, the entire value of Bloomberg is the data. Its not an interface which almost anyone can create.
- sexy_year 4y ago
  We need to do a better job at educating what data is accessible through platform. You can find the core here: https://openbb.co/products/terminal#features https://openbb.co/products/terminal#features In any case, you are right. We rely on API keys because unlike BBT we don't own the data, and therefore, we are essentially a platform that aggregates investment research data - and that the user is allowed to customize their own feeds.
op00to 4y ago
Bloomberg's value is access to POSH. Where else will I buy my second hand Ferrari when the market's down?
- compsciphd 4y ago
  in reality, as someone who worked at TR on Eikon and then moved to Bloomberg (law, wasn't competing directly with my former colleagues), Bloomberg's main value that is difficult to displace is IB.
  - frankreyes 4y ago
    There are people who pay those $24k just for IB.

Bloomberg's value is the timely access to data and analysis. What data does the provide? I didn't see it on the page.

nuthje 4y ago

Main value is the chat still.

jshaqaw 4y ago
For equities that is true and most Bloomberg functionality can be replicated with Sat Interactive Brokers plus some data subscriptions. Doing fixed income manually without the data pre populated in Bloomberg is very painful. But yes, the chat is where the franchise is and recent SEC actions punishing any non compliant communications like texts or alternative messaging services with massive fines have only given that moat another decade at least of invulnerability.
- jcrben 4y ago
  What is Sat Interactive Brokers? I've used Interactive Brokers for a long time and never heard of Sat.
- xmcqdpt2 4y ago
  There are other non-Bloomberg compliant chat applications. Symphony is the big one https://symphony.com/ https://symphony.com/ but also whatsapp and imessage from company-owned devices. The fines were about chat communications from personal devices.
  - hackernewds 4y ago
    I think you're missing the point. it's not the chat application. it's the participants that are in the chat in Bloomberg
    - sexy_year 4y ago
      True
  - jshaqaw 4y ago
    Maybe in theory. The message I get from almost everyone at a regulated institution is Bloomberg, e-mail, or voice. When the SEC is on a warpath, compliance and legal departments don’t play with anything but the clearest black and white lines to optimize for the convenience of staff. It is frustrating because it imposes a monopoly tax on financial market participants to get a Bloomberg or be shut out of information flow which is death in markets. I’ve yet to find anyone I deal with who says hey find me on Symphony.
    - xmcqdpt2 4y ago
      I work at a financial institution and it's symphony for internal communications. I much prefer it to teams tbh.
detourdog 4y ago
That is what I heard terminal was the membership fee to chat and Veblen good of office power.
- xyzelement 4y ago
  Who did you hear that from? Bloomberg provides you normalized data across all asset classes, cross asset portfolio analytics and management tools. First party trading venues, access to the world's largest broker network, immediate access to news including news sentiment indicators across the terminal offering. Access to it's own brokerage (trade book is still a thing I think), buyside and sell side Order Management platforms, APIs to feed the same stuff into your excel and servers. Did I mention all this tooling is engineered to be compliant across regulatory regimes. So yes chat is important and having a BB terminal definitely separates the men from the boys but that's additional to the indispensable functionality the platform itself provides.
  - detourdog 4y ago
    It was a single person office that acted as a black box between traders. He had aBloomberg terminal to do it all.
boppo1 4y ago
How does BBG chat compare to other internet chat? Does it get as raucous?

deconstruct 4y ago

I had the same question. It looks to me that you have to add API keys for data sources. Although a lot of work no doubt has gone into this, it seems to me like a bit of a pointless project if someone then must source their own data from various (and varying in quality and price) APIs. As mentioned, the entire value of Bloomberg is the data. Its not an interface which almost anyone can create.

sexy_year 4y ago
We need to do a better job at educating what data is accessible through platform. You can find the core here: https://openbb.co/products/terminal#features https://openbb.co/products/terminal#features In any case, you are right. We rely on API keys because unlike BBT we don't own the data, and therefore, we are essentially a platform that aggregates investment research data - and that the user is allowed to customize their own feeds.

op00to 4y ago

Bloomberg's value is access to POSH. Where else will I buy my second hand Ferrari when the market's down?

compsciphd 4y ago
in reality, as someone who worked at TR on Eikon and then moved to Bloomberg (law, wasn't competing directly with my former colleagues), Bloomberg's main value that is difficult to displace is IB.
- frankreyes 4y ago
  There are people who pay those $24k just for IB.