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>It took me a while to wrap my head around it, I'm chinese. I understand what you're talking about it, More than you. But you are taking it too far. The concep
by kilgnad 4y ago
>It took me a while to wrap my head around it,
I'm chinese. I understand what you're talking about it, More than you. But you are taking it too far. The concept is exactly the same as the the universal thing about not admitting fault. It is exactly the same.
The main difference is the concept has been crystallized into the language and is more prevalent. It is not anything more than that.
It's likely someone who was natively born in China is trying to explain the concept to you without fully understanding western culture. He likely thinks western culture is some sort of pristine culture with no concept at all of "not wanting to admit fault" and was trying to explain it to you thinking that the concept was completely absent from your background. No, this is wrong.
I'm a creature of both worlds. Deep insight into western culture by virtue of being born in the states and deep insight into east asian culture by virtue of being born of the chinese race, having family who is chinese and also having friends who are all chinese.
The duality of my origins make my insight more calibrated in this regard.
- refurb 4y agoIt’s not the same because the consequences are different. Thats my observation having lived in both the West and Asia.
- kilgnad 4y agoTell me what you observed because you're dead wrong. You're a foreigner and treated as such, your interpretations are likely through a filtered lens. I'm not. Perhaps you know you're wrong and you're trying to save face? When you look at Chinese people "saving face", when you look at the Chinese government "saving face" keep in mind that sometimes you're looking at a mirror. We're not that different. I think you mistook a popular Chinese idiom for some Chinese cultural quirk.
- refurb 4y agoAs a foreigner, I read the same local news same as locals. I can observe the behavior of governments when it comes to "saving face" versus Western governments. It's pretty obvious that in countries like China the idea that the government can "never be wrong, never show weakness" is different than the Western approach.
- kilgnad 4y agoThis is a authoritative government thing. Not a Chinese thing. The western government does the same shit. Their reach just isn't as far as the Chinese government in its ability to completely lock down the media. Instead the US government typically does what they call "a cover up". Both governments launch massive amounts of propaganda, both would take a loong time to admit thier mistakes if given enough pressure. The only difference is, in china no one is allowed to deliver pressure.