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wow, to a Dane the US electricity rules are something out of a 3rd world country!!

user_7832 4y ago
I assuming that you’re taking what I wrote as US electricity rules but the devices/rules I mentioned were for European products. My iPad that gives me a slight tingle was purchased from the Apple store in The Hague so it’s EU compliant. (I’m Indian and I believe India too has similar rules. Double insulation is generally pretty safe, if a little annoying.)
_fizz_buzz_ 4y ago
The issue they are talking about can (but shouldn't) also happen with the "Europlug" which is also used in Denmark: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europlug https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europlug
lioeters 4y ago
> US electricity rules are something out of a 3rd world country If you read about the CEE 7 standard that aims to unify power plugs and sockets in European countries [1], which includes the "Europlug" [2] mentioned in a sibling comment, you'll see that the situation is not any better than in the US. For example, about the CEE 7/7 plug which bridges the difference between socket types in Germany (2-pronged - also in Denmark, Spain, etc.) and France (3-pronged - also in Belgium, Czechia, Poland), it mentions: > This plug can be inserted into a Danish Type K socket, but earthing is not enabled. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CEE_7_standard_AC_plugs_and_sockets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CEE_7_standard_AC_plugs_and_so... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europlug#Compatibility https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europlug#Compatibility
Oxidation 4y ago
Even in the UK, which has quite stringent electric regulations, you can get two-conductor cables with a plastic earth pin (which is always required even if you don't need grounding as otherwise the shutters covering the live and neutral holes are not withdrawn). On the other end, it could have a "figure-of-8" IEC connector. And I definitely noticed a tingle on some metal laptops even when they have a 3-pin plug and a "Mickey mouse" IEC connector on the cable to the power brick.
lima 4y ago
It's allowed in Europe and Denmark as well. Some µA of leakage current are acceptable. Happens because of Y capacitor leakage in switching power supplies.

I assuming that you’re taking what I wrote as US electricity rules but the devices/rules I mentioned were for European products. My iPad that gives me a slight tingle was purchased from the Apple store in The Hague so it’s EU compliant. (I’m Indian and I believe India too has similar rules. Double insulation is generally pretty safe, if a little annoying.)

_fizz_buzz_ 4y ago

The issue they are talking about can (but shouldn't) also happen with the "Europlug" which is also used in Denmark: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europlug https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europlug

lioeters 4y ago

> US electricity rules are something out of a 3rd world country If you read about the CEE 7 standard that aims to unify power plugs and sockets in European countries [1], which includes the "Europlug" [2] mentioned in a sibling comment, you'll see that the situation is not any better than in the US. For example, about the CEE 7/7 plug which bridges the difference between socket types in Germany (2-pronged - also in Denmark, Spain, etc.) and France (3-pronged - also in Belgium, Czechia, Poland), it mentions: > This plug can be inserted into a Danish Type K socket, but earthing is not enabled. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CEE_7_standard_AC_plugs_and_sockets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CEE_7_standard_AC_plugs_and_so... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europlug#Compatibility https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europlug#Compatibility

Oxidation 4y ago

Even in the UK, which has quite stringent electric regulations, you can get two-conductor cables with a plastic earth pin (which is always required even if you don't need grounding as otherwise the shutters covering the live and neutral holes are not withdrawn). On the other end, it could have a "figure-of-8" IEC connector. And I definitely noticed a tingle on some metal laptops even when they have a 3-pin plug and a "Mickey mouse" IEC connector on the cable to the power brick.

lima 4y ago

It's allowed in Europe and Denmark as well. Some µA of leakage current are acceptable. Happens because of Y capacitor leakage in switching power supplies.