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by xracy 4y ago

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smeej 4y ago
The "0.3-3.8% regret" statistic comes from this summary of the literature, which does not have sources before 2017: https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-well-being-of-transgender-people/ https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equali... The claim that this is current despite the massive uptick in children identifying as trans (again, a 30x increase), needs a current citation.
- xracy 4y ago
  I was asking for citations for your claims. That literature seems pretty solid, given you shared a literal collation of all of it. Importantly, increased number of children identifying as trans Does Not Mean "increased number of children who would not otherwise have identified as trans". It just means our culture is getting more accepting of trans kids, so they're not relegated to being outcasts in all cases. So your claim that the year studies were published matters, is just wrong on the face of it. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/ <- also, it turns out that it's a lie that there's no current data on this. This was my first Google. It would be hella weird if there was a sudden stopping of people studying this since 2017, given all of the interest in the subject. > There are many, many places kids can get needed "referrals" from one visit without their parents' knowledge or consent. That's the citation I want from you.
  - rbanffy 4y ago
    > Importantly, increased number of children identifying as trans Does Not Mean "increased number of children who would not otherwise have identified as trans". A useful analogy would be the number of women who spontaneously self-identified as witches in Salem by 1692 and 1693 compared to the number who self-identified as witches in the late 1960's. Being burned to a crisp is certainly a huge downside to showing your true persona.

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by xracy 4y ago

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The "0.3-3.8% regret" statistic comes from this summary of the literature, which does not have sources before 2017: https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-well-being-of-transgender-people/ https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equali... The claim that this is current despite the massive uptick in children identifying as trans (again, a 30x increase), needs a current citation.

xracy 4y ago
I was asking for citations for your claims. That literature seems pretty solid, given you shared a literal collation of all of it. Importantly, increased number of children identifying as trans Does Not Mean "increased number of children who would not otherwise have identified as trans". It just means our culture is getting more accepting of trans kids, so they're not relegated to being outcasts in all cases. So your claim that the year studies were published matters, is just wrong on the face of it. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/ <- also, it turns out that it's a lie that there's no current data on this. This was my first Google. It would be hella weird if there was a sudden stopping of people studying this since 2017, given all of the interest in the subject. > There are many, many places kids can get needed "referrals" from one visit without their parents' knowledge or consent. That's the citation I want from you.
- rbanffy 4y ago
  > Importantly, increased number of children identifying as trans Does Not Mean "increased number of children who would not otherwise have identified as trans". A useful analogy would be the number of women who spontaneously self-identified as witches in Salem by 1692 and 1693 compared to the number who self-identified as witches in the late 1960's. Being burned to a crisp is certainly a huge downside to showing your true persona.