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Out of curiosity, how many minors do you believe undergo sex-reassignment surgery?

bsaul 4y ago
i do hope this isn't more than a couple per year, worldwide. I don't have the numbers, but my fear is the "trend" effect. The fact that this issue is becoming widely discussed can easily influence teenagers into believing this is the solution to their problem (that's what teenagers do : they get easily influenced).
- plorkyeran 4y ago
  Worldwide numbers are obviously complicated, but in the united states the median number per year is zero if you exclude intersex babies. Sexual reassignment surgery on minors is an entirely made up concern. Even HRT is unusual, and typically teens only receive puberty blockers specifically to let them defer the decision until adulthood.
- PartiallyTyped 4y ago
  Part of gender affirming healthcare - which also includes possibly affirming a gender congruent to their sex - is extensive therapy and investigations by psychiatrists. People are not handed HRT like candies, nor do they undergo such surgeries on a whim. By banning gender affirming healthcare you force kids and adults to seek HRT off the market, from possibly malicious and opportunistic actors. It’s no different to drug policies really. The war on drugs has failed in every state and country that has attempted it, whereas the humanitarian approach taken by Portugal has shown to actually solve the issue. If indeed there is a trend, doesn’t it make more sense to have the kids reviewed by certified and approved medical professionals and give them therapy and evaluation instead of making it harder and hoping that they don’t go to gray market? There is an enormous amount of research done on the topic, and is definitely not new either.
- drivingmenuts 4y ago
  > i do hope this isn't more than a couple per year, worldwide. Why? Unless you are the person involved, or part of their family, why would you even have a concern about someone else’s gender choice? You’re not the one who has to live their life and there’s a pretty low chance you’ll have any knowing contact with them whatsoever.
  - bsaul 4y ago
    because having the biology of one genre and the psychology of another seems a condition bad enough that i hope very very few people on earth experience it.
- xracy 4y ago
  Feels like a lot of hand-wringing over a statistic you could actually look up. Also, worrying about the "Trend" is dangerous given that there's just not that many trans people in society, and in recent years we've gone from "very few of them" transitioning to "some of them" transitioning. If what you're legitimately concerned about is the "trend of people talking about this", then you should consider that this bill and bills like it are more likely to force people into a rash decision because if it takes effect, then there's no telling when they'd be able to transition, so maybe they should rush their transition. Think of this as a version of the Streisand effect.

i do hope this isn't more than a couple per year, worldwide. I don't have the numbers, but my fear is the "trend" effect. The fact that this issue is becoming widely discussed can easily influence teenagers into believing this is the solution to their problem (that's what teenagers do : they get easily influenced).

plorkyeran 4y ago
Worldwide numbers are obviously complicated, but in the united states the median number per year is zero if you exclude intersex babies. Sexual reassignment surgery on minors is an entirely made up concern. Even HRT is unusual, and typically teens only receive puberty blockers specifically to let them defer the decision until adulthood.
PartiallyTyped 4y ago
Part of gender affirming healthcare - which also includes possibly affirming a gender congruent to their sex - is extensive therapy and investigations by psychiatrists. People are not handed HRT like candies, nor do they undergo such surgeries on a whim. By banning gender affirming healthcare you force kids and adults to seek HRT off the market, from possibly malicious and opportunistic actors. It’s no different to drug policies really. The war on drugs has failed in every state and country that has attempted it, whereas the humanitarian approach taken by Portugal has shown to actually solve the issue. If indeed there is a trend, doesn’t it make more sense to have the kids reviewed by certified and approved medical professionals and give them therapy and evaluation instead of making it harder and hoping that they don’t go to gray market? There is an enormous amount of research done on the topic, and is definitely not new either.
drivingmenuts 4y ago
> i do hope this isn't more than a couple per year, worldwide. Why? Unless you are the person involved, or part of their family, why would you even have a concern about someone else’s gender choice? You’re not the one who has to live their life and there’s a pretty low chance you’ll have any knowing contact with them whatsoever.
- bsaul 4y ago
  because having the biology of one genre and the psychology of another seems a condition bad enough that i hope very very few people on earth experience it.
xracy 4y ago
Feels like a lot of hand-wringing over a statistic you could actually look up. Also, worrying about the "Trend" is dangerous given that there's just not that many trans people in society, and in recent years we've gone from "very few of them" transitioning to "some of them" transitioning. If what you're legitimately concerned about is the "trend of people talking about this", then you should consider that this bill and bills like it are more likely to force people into a rash decision because if it takes effect, then there's no telling when they'd be able to transition, so maybe they should rush their transition. Think of this as a version of the Streisand effect.