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Did you know that some people spend their weekend working to make rent rather than launching apps that they hope might work?

dvt 4y ago
Of course, but we're not talking about people in poverty, or that are homeless, etc. You're just bringing up a weird red herring that's orthogonal to my point--namely, that the bar is extremely accessible (esp. compared to ventures prior to the advent of computers).
- thfuran 4y ago
  We aren't? Then next time you mean something other than "completely false", I'd recommend steering clear of the phrase "completely false".
- giantrobot 4y ago
  More people than just those below the poverty line work on weekends. Launching an app over a weekend is easy...if you've got all of the required skills a priori and the leisure time available to do so. Launching an app over the weekend isn't a viable option for people lacking either of those two components no matter their distance from the poverty line.
- 8note 4y ago
  Isn't this the same argument though? Youre saying that if you only consider the rich, then there's no difference between the rich and poor experience for making businesses
- spencerchubb 4y ago
  > but we're not talking about people in poverty Um... the parent comment is in fact talking about that
throwawaysleep 4y ago
If your day job doesn’t pay enough to make rent, you should move to another city.
- UncleEntity 4y ago
  Seriously? The thing about not being able to make rent is that other things suffer — like being able to move to another city or, you know, eating.
renewiltord 4y ago
This does not sound believable. Even assuming a 2 h / day commute each way, this person is working 56 h weeks with 28 h of commute? Introduce me to this poor person doing this (if they're within 50 mi of 94103) and if they have 2800 h of wages to show for last year, I will pay $1k just to talk to them for 2 h in a place of their convenience at a time of their convenience. I think it's much more likely that people who are too poor to participate cannot participate in gainful labour in a predictable fashion, i.e. their employment is sporadic, or shifts are unpredictable, or they are seasonal labour. i.e. they are not time-constrained, they are employment-constrained.
- mrcrumb1 4y ago
  Surely you're aware that children and debt exist.
  - renewiltord 4y ago
    Okay, it's true. People can make choices that close doors for them. That part is true.

dvt 4y ago

Of course, but we're not talking about people in poverty, or that are homeless, etc. You're just bringing up a weird red herring that's orthogonal to my point--namely, that the bar is extremely accessible (esp. compared to ventures prior to the advent of computers).

thfuran 4y ago
We aren't? Then next time you mean something other than "completely false", I'd recommend steering clear of the phrase "completely false".
giantrobot 4y ago
More people than just those below the poverty line work on weekends. Launching an app over a weekend is easy...if you've got all of the required skills a priori and the leisure time available to do so. Launching an app over the weekend isn't a viable option for people lacking either of those two components no matter their distance from the poverty line.
8note 4y ago
Isn't this the same argument though? Youre saying that if you only consider the rich, then there's no difference between the rich and poor experience for making businesses
spencerchubb 4y ago
> but we're not talking about people in poverty Um... the parent comment is in fact talking about that

throwawaysleep 4y ago

If your day job doesn’t pay enough to make rent, you should move to another city.

UncleEntity 4y ago
Seriously? The thing about not being able to make rent is that other things suffer — like being able to move to another city or, you know, eating.

renewiltord 4y ago

This does not sound believable. Even assuming a 2 h / day commute each way, this person is working 56 h weeks with 28 h of commute? Introduce me to this poor person doing this (if they're within 50 mi of 94103) and if they have 2800 h of wages to show for last year, I will pay $1k just to talk to them for 2 h in a place of their convenience at a time of their convenience. I think it's much more likely that people who are too poor to participate cannot participate in gainful labour in a predictable fashion, i.e. their employment is sporadic, or shifts are unpredictable, or they are seasonal labour. i.e. they are not time-constrained, they are employment-constrained.

mrcrumb1 4y ago
Surely you're aware that children and debt exist.
- renewiltord 4y ago
  Okay, it's true. People can make choices that close doors for them. That part is true.