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Let's be real, you already can't criticize anything truthfully in the west either. You either have to tone it down to make it politically correct or not say it

Let's be real, you already can't criticize anything truthfully in the west either. You either have to tone it down to make it politically correct or not say it in the first place for fear of repercussions or reprisal on several levels. The west is every bit as authoritarian as China but the rules are considerably less clear and it's a lot murkier. It's better to be strictly clear about what is forbidden than to guess about which rules can and cannot be bent or to have to guess about the "unwritten rules" that really guide everything we do.

wiseowise 4y ago
> The west is every bit as authoritarian as China but the rules are considerably less clear and it's a lot murkier. Can’t believe anyone writing this seriously with a straight face.
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faeriechangling 4y ago
I can incredibly easily listen to the views of deranged people who are actually Neo-Nazi's and Tankie Stalin loving leftists without too much trouble. Independent media has never been bigger and more influential. Social media remains largely out of government control and loosely controlled in general despite much whinging over this by would-be autocrats. These are not things true to the same degree in China where they actually have a degree of centralised control over the media and snitch culture.
uxcolumbo 4y ago
Are people here in the West being disappeared or experiencing severe repercussions for criticising the government?
KyeRussell 4y ago
I live in a Western culture country and truthfully criticise stuff all the time. Be honest with us here. What ‘dissenting’ opinion about a hot-button topic do you hold? Because it really feels like you’re talking about some people calling your opinions stupid online, but you’re generalising / exaggerating it to the point where you’ve deluded yourself into thinking that it’s equal to censorship enacted by an authoritarian government that has a habit of disappearing people. The mere fact you’ve written this in the first place, and the fact that you can write it at all, both proves you wrong and is a fantastic illustration of how deep inside the weird libertarian tech bro bubble you are. Get some perspective.

wiseowise 4y ago

> The west is every bit as authoritarian as China but the rules are considerably less clear and it's a lot murkier. Can’t believe anyone writing this seriously with a straight face.

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faeriechangling 4y ago

I can incredibly easily listen to the views of deranged people who are actually Neo-Nazi's and Tankie Stalin loving leftists without too much trouble. Independent media has never been bigger and more influential. Social media remains largely out of government control and loosely controlled in general despite much whinging over this by would-be autocrats. These are not things true to the same degree in China where they actually have a degree of centralised control over the media and snitch culture.

uxcolumbo 4y ago

Are people here in the West being disappeared or experiencing severe repercussions for criticising the government?

KyeRussell 4y ago

I live in a Western culture country and truthfully criticise stuff all the time. Be honest with us here. What ‘dissenting’ opinion about a hot-button topic do you hold? Because it really feels like you’re talking about some people calling your opinions stupid online, but you’re generalising / exaggerating it to the point where you’ve deluded yourself into thinking that it’s equal to censorship enacted by an authoritarian government that has a habit of disappearing people. The mere fact you’ve written this in the first place, and the fact that you can write it at all, both proves you wrong and is a fantastic illustration of how deep inside the weird libertarian tech bro bubble you are. Get some perspective.