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bwarp, I find your stance ... distasteful. I have kids and I monitor them as appropriate. The idea that all Internet connections are now "age verified" is just

by bestes 15y ago

bwarp, I find your stance ... distasteful. I have kids and I monitor them as appropriate. The idea that all Internet connections are now "age verified" is just getting the infrastructure in place for more serious censorship. And the idea that social workers need to deal with people like me is a pretty serious threat.

bwarp 15y ago
They aren't age verified any further than walking into a video shop and asking for an 18 film, or off license to buy cigarettes or alcohol in the UK requires verification. We take that for granted. It's the same thing really. The mass censorship infrastructure is already here in the UK EVERYWHERE (Google for IWF.org.uk) yet is surprisingly not mentioned with respect to this. The censorship is independent to the mobile provider's age mandate which has nothing to do with censorship, but is more of a way of protecting mobile providers' arses from getting sued by parents (which will happen). It is not actually LAW. Now more seriously, you bought something off the shelf. You chose to buy it. If it comes with that restriction, don't buy it. The restriction is documented on the SIM packet. I choose not to buy Apple products on that basis: because I like to replace batteries. It's simple. You don't have a right to buy something and then complain about how it censors you. Do your research and just don't buy it. You probably don't need it anyway. To project my comments to an idea is that "social workers need to deal with people like you" is crazy and totally incorrect. That's extremism and a blatant twisting of words. The premise, which is proven many a time (google it - I can't be arsed to be honest), is that if you expose children to pornography too early, bad things happen. Negative personality traits develop. They don't necessarily turn into rapists as someone says, but they cause problems with other children in schools when appropriate and conventional boundaries are broken. Giving them a readily accessible channel to end up with behaviour is not a positive thing. Now where I live, it's not uncommon to see 10 year olds riding BMX's down the road with a cigarette in one hand and a can of Strongbow in the other and beating the shit out of people to get a few quid to sustain their highs. Is that acceptable to you? Please get it straight: Nothing is black and white. That applies to censorship too.

by bestes 15y ago

bwarp 15y ago

They aren't age verified any further than walking into a video shop and asking for an 18 film, or off license to buy cigarettes or alcohol in the UK requires verification. We take that for granted. It's the same thing really. The mass censorship infrastructure is already here in the UK EVERYWHERE (Google for IWF.org.uk) yet is surprisingly not mentioned with respect to this. The censorship is independent to the mobile provider's age mandate which has nothing to do with censorship, but is more of a way of protecting mobile providers' arses from getting sued by parents (which will happen). It is not actually LAW. Now more seriously, you bought something off the shelf. You chose to buy it. If it comes with that restriction, don't buy it. The restriction is documented on the SIM packet. I choose not to buy Apple products on that basis: because I like to replace batteries. It's simple. You don't have a right to buy something and then complain about how it censors you. Do your research and just don't buy it. You probably don't need it anyway. To project my comments to an idea is that "social workers need to deal with people like you" is crazy and totally incorrect. That's extremism and a blatant twisting of words. The premise, which is proven many a time (google it - I can't be arsed to be honest), is that if you expose children to pornography too early, bad things happen. Negative personality traits develop. They don't necessarily turn into rapists as someone says, but they cause problems with other children in schools when appropriate and conventional boundaries are broken. Giving them a readily accessible channel to end up with behaviour is not a positive thing. Now where I live, it's not uncommon to see 10 year olds riding BMX's down the road with a cigarette in one hand and a can of Strongbow in the other and beating the shit out of people to get a few quid to sustain their highs. Is that acceptable to you? Please get it straight: Nothing is black and white. That applies to censorship too.