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> If you don't allow them to index your data for free, > why would you expect them to include them in their search > results? This tool demonstrates that Goo

> If you don't allow them to index your data for free, > why would you expect them to include them in their search > results? This tool demonstrates that Google is already accessing and indexing the data it says it needs to improve its search results. This isn't rhetoric; it's code.

j_s 15y ago
Yes, it is a technical solution to a "problem" (air quotes denoting that this was a conscious business decision by Google). It brought to my mind the infamous checklists explaining why technical solutions to spam would fail: http://craphound.com/spamsolutions.txt http://craphound.com/spamsolutions.txt
tomkarlo 15y ago
> This tool demonstrates that Google is already accessing and indexing the data it says it needs to improve its search results. This isn't rhetoric; it's code. It doesn't really demonstrate that. It demonstrates that Google can show G+ pages related to a topic, and that it can show high-ranked social pages linked to the owners of those G+ pages. But it doesn't show that on a broad, scalable basis Google can dependably link from a topic to a highly relevant 3rd-party social page. Demonstrating it on a couple of easy, celebrity-focused queries isn't proof of anything.
- blakeross 15y ago
  The tool isn't limited to celebrity queries. Install it and use it on whatever queries you wish.
  - tomkarlo 15y ago
    I realize the tool isn't limited, but it only works with the (relatively) short list of terms that Google is using to display that Google+ pane.
nextparadigms 15y ago
I've noticed Facebook even asks you to login if you're logged out of Facebook and you're reading on a Facebook page. Why should Google have to deal with that when even Facebook themselves don't want their own data to be very public?
rogerchucker 15y ago
Blake why are you guys completely kicking out the legitimate G+ profile links from the search results using the bookmarklet? I thought you were against search result manipulations. I search for people like Guy Kawasaki or Trey Ratcliff who are very active in G+ and yet their profiles are not listed on the first page of the results if I use your bookmarklet.
- blakeross 15y ago
  We are not touching the organic results. The code for the bookmarklet is freely available; anyone can verify that.

j_s 15y ago

Yes, it is a technical solution to a "problem" (air quotes denoting that this was a conscious business decision by Google). It brought to my mind the infamous checklists explaining why technical solutions to spam would fail: http://craphound.com/spamsolutions.txt http://craphound.com/spamsolutions.txt

tomkarlo 15y ago

> This tool demonstrates that Google is already accessing and indexing the data it says it needs to improve its search results. This isn't rhetoric; it's code. It doesn't really demonstrate that. It demonstrates that Google can show G+ pages related to a topic, and that it can show high-ranked social pages linked to the owners of those G+ pages. But it doesn't show that on a broad, scalable basis Google can dependably link from a topic to a highly relevant 3rd-party social page. Demonstrating it on a couple of easy, celebrity-focused queries isn't proof of anything.

blakeross 15y ago
The tool isn't limited to celebrity queries. Install it and use it on whatever queries you wish.
- tomkarlo 15y ago
  I realize the tool isn't limited, but it only works with the (relatively) short list of terms that Google is using to display that Google+ pane.

nextparadigms 15y ago

I've noticed Facebook even asks you to login if you're logged out of Facebook and you're reading on a Facebook page. Why should Google have to deal with that when even Facebook themselves don't want their own data to be very public?

rogerchucker 15y ago

Blake why are you guys completely kicking out the legitimate G+ profile links from the search results using the bookmarklet? I thought you were against search result manipulations. I search for people like Guy Kawasaki or Trey Ratcliff who are very active in G+ and yet their profiles are not listed on the first page of the results if I use your bookmarklet.

blakeross 15y ago
We are not touching the organic results. The code for the bookmarklet is freely available; anyone can verify that.