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Well, what is it supposed to do? How are you supposed to tell if it makes a difference?

kevviiinn 4y ago
Let's take thymosin beta-4 as an example, it's a protein involved in actin polymerization which is a component of muscle. People use it as a performance enhancer, so theoretically if your ability to recover from high intensity training increases then you can tell it's working. Peptides are no different from other drugs besides the fact that they can be short to long sequences of amino acids https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thymosin_beta-4 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thymosin_beta-4 There are a ton of different peptides that do different things so there is no "one thing a peptide is supposed to do"
- Gordonjcp 4y ago
  Is this something you can actually measure? Or is it just an expensive and complicated source of warm fuzzies?
  - kevviiinn 4y ago
    I don't know man can you measure the effects of any other drug? Why do you think these are somehow different? Did you even read the wikipedia article I linked? The peptide I mentioned is banned by the world doping agency, but it's probably because it just gives athletes a warm fuzzy feeling right? At this point your comments seem intentionally disingenuous
    - rbanffy 4y ago
      > I don't know man can you measure the effects of any other drug? I can measure my blood sugar and my blood pressure quite simply and that is what ensures me the medication I take is working.
      - kevviiinn 4y ago
        Yes, the question was rhetorical.
        rbanffy 4y ago
        There are subjective effects that are much harder to measure though, and these peptide injections fall into that area, as there are numerous environmental and genetic factors one would need to control for.
        kevviiinn 4y ago
        You say "these" like all peptides are in the category. I'm talking about ones like the one I mentioned earlier. Sure there are some ineffective peptides but there are also ineffective drugs. A peptide banned from sport by the world doping agency is not something with subjective effects
  - SturgeonsLaw 4y ago
    When people read "protein" they think food, however proteins can have physiological effects on the body. Human growth hormone, snake venom and insulin are all proteins, and they do far more than just provide nutrients. Peptides are just small chain proteins, so the same rules apply.

Let's take thymosin beta-4 as an example, it's a protein involved in actin polymerization which is a component of muscle. People use it as a performance enhancer, so theoretically if your ability to recover from high intensity training increases then you can tell it's working. Peptides are no different from other drugs besides the fact that they can be short to long sequences of amino acids https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thymosin_beta-4 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thymosin_beta-4 There are a ton of different peptides that do different things so there is no "one thing a peptide is supposed to do"

Gordonjcp 4y ago
Is this something you can actually measure? Or is it just an expensive and complicated source of warm fuzzies?
- kevviiinn 4y ago
  I don't know man can you measure the effects of any other drug? Why do you think these are somehow different? Did you even read the wikipedia article I linked? The peptide I mentioned is banned by the world doping agency, but it's probably because it just gives athletes a warm fuzzy feeling right? At this point your comments seem intentionally disingenuous
  - rbanffy 4y ago
    > I don't know man can you measure the effects of any other drug? I can measure my blood sugar and my blood pressure quite simply and that is what ensures me the medication I take is working.
    - kevviiinn 4y ago
      Yes, the question was rhetorical.
      - rbanffy 4y ago
        There are subjective effects that are much harder to measure though, and these peptide injections fall into that area, as there are numerous environmental and genetic factors one would need to control for.
        kevviiinn 4y ago
        You say "these" like all peptides are in the category. I'm talking about ones like the one I mentioned earlier. Sure there are some ineffective peptides but there are also ineffective drugs. A peptide banned from sport by the world doping agency is not something with subjective effects
- SturgeonsLaw 4y ago
  When people read "protein" they think food, however proteins can have physiological effects on the body. Human growth hormone, snake venom and insulin are all proteins, and they do far more than just provide nutrients. Peptides are just small chain proteins, so the same rules apply.