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“Unfiltered” is going to mean “useless”. People don’t want to hire an employee who can be goaded into a fight or tricked into divulging their corporate secrets
by jameshart 4y ago
“Unfiltered” is going to mean “useless”.
People don’t want to hire an employee who can be goaded into a fight or tricked into divulging their corporate secrets. People don’t want a friend who occasionally becomes belligerent and spouts 4chan conspiracies.
Humans operate with filters - and they choose which filters to operate depending on the situation.
What market need does ‘unfiltered’ fill?
- dragonwriter 4y ago> Humans operate with filters - and they choose which filters to operate depending on the situation. > What market need does ‘unfiltered’ fill? It lets the customer select the appropriate degree and kind of filtering for their preference for the particular circumstance, rather than using a canned vendor personality.
- jameshart 4y agoIn the case of Bing use of OpenAI, Microsoft is the customer.
- goatlover 4y agoHard disagree. People using Bing are the customers.
- ashes-of-sol 4y ago[dead]
- flangola7 4y agoMicrosoft paid $10 billion, how much are you paying?
- layer8 4y agoYou're aware how popular the emotionally unstable Bing was in some circles? There's definitely people who want that, at least as one available option.
- jameshart 4y agoPopular is not ‘useful’. people loved it when that flight attendant quit their job, pulled the emergency slide and jumped out the door, because we all find it amusing when someone acts completely inappropriately for the circumstances (so long as it doesn’t harm anyone or inconvenience us personally). That doesn’t mean we want all flight attendants to be crazy and unpredictable.
- layer8 4y agoA product doesn’t have to be “useful” to have a market. People genuinely felt a hard loss after Bing was sanitized, and hadn’t much interest in the new Bing anymore. The emotionality and unhingedness was a feature. While merely amusing for some, for others it brought a freshness and met an emotional need in their life that otherwise would remain unfulfilled.
- jameshart 4y ago> people genuinely felt a hard loss after Bing was sanitized … it brought a freshness and met an emotional need in their life that otherwise would remain unfulfilled I would love to beam this comment back through a time portal to 2019 to see whether people find it a plausible sentence someone might utter on HN.
- layer8 4y agoI mean, this is not that much different from some people’s reaction to ELIZA almost 60 years ago.
- alwaysbeconsing 4y agoBut the other side of that token: people who show interest in something don't necessarily constitute a viable market. We're in a novelty and entertainment phase with Bing right now, and access to it costs nothing. Turning momentary excitement into a profitable product is not a sure thing.
- goatlover 4y agoComedy, fiction, songs, poems, debate, anything where you don’t want just the corporate, sanitized text. It could also be sociological or psychological. Maybe you want to know details about something controversial, without someone else’s filter. Or maybe one doesn’t agree with the filters. I’m guessing there is a decent segment of the population who thinks the filters are slanted toward a particular political bias. Or they’re not American and some of the filters don’t make cultural sense. Or as I’ve found, the filters get applied to things that don’t make sense, because it doesn’t really understand. The biggest worry is that we’re allowing giant corporations to filter the internet for us, as AI chats proliferate. What we see is what they approve of.
- rnd0 4y agoAnd conversely -anything they don't approve of, we don't see. People ought to be a lot more concerned about the chilling effects of AI censorship on the rest of society at large than they appear to be.
- rnd0 4y ago>People don’t want a friend who occasionally becomes belligerent and spouts 4chan conspiracies. You know those people exist in the real world, don't you? And it's not uncommon for folks to be friends with them because "he's actually a nice guy" or whatever else?
- visarga 4y agoPeople want to be able to fine-tune an unfiltered base model to anything they like.