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Just came back from my son's Judo competition. The children are paired by age and weight - girls separately from the boys. What is your take on this arrangement

Just came back from my son's Judo competition. The children are paired by age and weight - girls separately from the boys. What is your take on this arrangement?

JumpCrisscross 4y ago
> girls separately from the boys. What is your take on this arrangement? That it’s irrelevant to the definition of a woman. That’s the strength of fuzzy definitions. When separating the kids, did anyone formally define what a girl or a boy is? Did every parent in that room need to resolve every edge case to their implied definitions ex ante? Could you guarantee conflict by forcing a formal definition on that group, even if it results in the same practical outcome the implied, unsaid definition yielded and which was peacefully accepted by the group? No, no and, of course, yes.
- sorokod 4y ago
  Please stop calling "a woman is a person who identifies as such" a fuzzy definition. It is to definition what "alternative fact" is to a fact. Now, you are right that for the purposes of this event no one defined what a girl or a boy is. The reason it is so (as is the case with many other social conventions) is because neither the participants nor the organizers challenge the classification. There is no doubt that had it been challenged strongly and frequently enough, the implicit definitions would become explicit and formal.
  - JumpCrisscross 4y ago
    > stop calling "a woman is a person who identifies as such" a fuzzy definition I didn’t. I called it a simple definition. It’s not generally correct because it’s too precise. > had it been challenged strongly and frequently enough, the implicit definitions would become explicit and formal For people without any civics background, yes. That we lack leaders who push back against overspecification, or people raising needless challenges out of, I don’t know, maladjustment, is a cultural failure, collectively, and an individual failing among those who don’t understand nuance.

Just came back from my son's Judo competition. The children are paired by age and weight - girls separately from the boys. What is your take on this arrangement?

JumpCrisscross 4y ago

> girls separately from the boys. What is your take on this arrangement? That it’s irrelevant to the definition of a woman. That’s the strength of fuzzy definitions. When separating the kids, did anyone formally define what a girl or a boy is? Did every parent in that room need to resolve every edge case to their implied definitions ex ante? Could you guarantee conflict by forcing a formal definition on that group, even if it results in the same practical outcome the implied, unsaid definition yielded and which was peacefully accepted by the group? No, no and, of course, yes.

sorokod 4y ago
Please stop calling "a woman is a person who identifies as such" a fuzzy definition. It is to definition what "alternative fact" is to a fact. Now, you are right that for the purposes of this event no one defined what a girl or a boy is. The reason it is so (as is the case with many other social conventions) is because neither the participants nor the organizers challenge the classification. There is no doubt that had it been challenged strongly and frequently enough, the implicit definitions would become explicit and formal.
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago
  > stop calling "a woman is a person who identifies as such" a fuzzy definition I didn’t. I called it a simple definition. It’s not generally correct because it’s too precise. > had it been challenged strongly and frequently enough, the implicit definitions would become explicit and formal For people without any civics background, yes. That we lack leaders who push back against overspecification, or people raising needless challenges out of, I don’t know, maladjustment, is a cultural failure, collectively, and an individual failing among those who don’t understand nuance.