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Who should be the authority on good growth vs. bad growth? Should this extend to caps on individual wealth aswell? Who should decide how rich people can get AN

Who should be the authority on good growth vs. bad growth? Should this extend to caps on individual wealth aswell? Who should decide how rich people can get AND how much growth can happen? Seems like you're just changing masters.

wizofaus 4y ago
There's nothing inherently special about the type of growth that tends to be focused on currently - it just happens to be what we've already got mechanisms in place to measure and requires relatively minimal effort to maintain. If a democratically elected government can, with the advice of appropriate experts, develop better metrics for measuring growth and determining its long term viability, how is that a bad thing?
- corbulo 4y ago
  You're saying Joe Biden or Trump or Kamala Harris should have the ultimate authority over growth? Those are the people you trust to cap human potential?
  - svnt 4y ago
    You understand they don’t make laws, right?
    - corbulo 4y ago
      You're saying the current or previous congress should decide what human growth should look like then? I don't see how thats much better
      - wizofaus 4y ago
        It's easy to poke fun at government incompetency but like it or not they are who your country elected to make the sorts of decisions that shape its future. The only truly abysmal government is one that is paralysed into doing nothing at all.
        corbulo 4y ago
        Therefore they should be empowered to have full authoritarian control over your life? Government incompetence is why limited government exists. Can you state a definitive opinion instead of dancing around with nihilistic platitudes?
        wizofaus 4y ago
        My opinion is that if a government can be elected on the grounds of promising to improve how we define what sort of "growth" is worth pursuing and implement policies to achieve that, then it has a duty to follow through on such promises. The only thing nihilistic is concluding voters genuinely don't care, or simply don't believe there are better ways of measuring and sustaining growth (in which case, so be it, and we accept whatever fate such nihilism consigns us to).

wizofaus 4y ago

There's nothing inherently special about the type of growth that tends to be focused on currently - it just happens to be what we've already got mechanisms in place to measure and requires relatively minimal effort to maintain. If a democratically elected government can, with the advice of appropriate experts, develop better metrics for measuring growth and determining its long term viability, how is that a bad thing?

corbulo 4y ago
You're saying Joe Biden or Trump or Kamala Harris should have the ultimate authority over growth? Those are the people you trust to cap human potential?
- svnt 4y ago
  You understand they don’t make laws, right?
  - corbulo 4y ago
    You're saying the current or previous congress should decide what human growth should look like then? I don't see how thats much better
    - wizofaus 4y ago
      It's easy to poke fun at government incompetency but like it or not they are who your country elected to make the sorts of decisions that shape its future. The only truly abysmal government is one that is paralysed into doing nothing at all.
      - corbulo 4y ago
        Therefore they should be empowered to have full authoritarian control over your life? Government incompetence is why limited government exists. Can you state a definitive opinion instead of dancing around with nihilistic platitudes?
        wizofaus 4y ago
        My opinion is that if a government can be elected on the grounds of promising to improve how we define what sort of "growth" is worth pursuing and implement policies to achieve that, then it has a duty to follow through on such promises. The only thing nihilistic is concluding voters genuinely don't care, or simply don't believe there are better ways of measuring and sustaining growth (in which case, so be it, and we accept whatever fate such nihilism consigns us to).