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If people have UBI to cover their most basic needs they could actually have savings and they could use that to maintain their standard of living while they find

If people have UBI to cover their most basic needs they could actually have savings and they could use that to maintain their standard of living while they find other work. These rail workers are not highly skilled positions. The article states that they get no formal training at all. Even if no railroad company in the country will hire someone as retaliation quitting (which is a big assumption) they could easily work in some other industry.

tcmart14 4y ago
Railroad workers do get a lot of on the job training though. Or at least used to, wouldn't surprise me if they cut back on. But most rail road jobs are highly skilled jobs, the problem is, those skills don't really transfer well. Kind of like a joke I used to hear Marines make when I was in the Navy. The marines just prepare you to be homeless, because a lot of jobs in the Marine Corp don't really transfer out well (unless your aviation side). Which is where UBI will really help, not just with railroad workers, but workers in general. Need to change industry for X reason? Well you have UBI to assist so you don't eat shit in doing so.
gruez 4y ago
>If people have UBI to cover their most basic needs they could actually have savings and they could use that to maintain their standard of living while they find other work. This assumes that people will plow their UBI into savings, which is a doubtful assumption given how we see very well paid professionals live paycheck to paycheck due to lifestyle inflation.
- slifin 4y ago
  Not every professional It only needs to be one person to whistleblow That becomes more likely if they don't have to depend on the job to keep a roof over their head and their family doesn't have to be homeless
- fsociety 4y ago
  If I rephrase the argument, you are saying we should not have UBI to provide the lower class with a safety net because some people are bad with their finances? It could be good to question why some people are bad with their finances, or experience lifestyle inflation. I am going to bet it has less to do with having a safety net or access to more money, and more to do with societal pressure, culture, and mental health.

tcmart14 4y ago

Railroad workers do get a lot of on the job training though. Or at least used to, wouldn't surprise me if they cut back on. But most rail road jobs are highly skilled jobs, the problem is, those skills don't really transfer well. Kind of like a joke I used to hear Marines make when I was in the Navy. The marines just prepare you to be homeless, because a lot of jobs in the Marine Corp don't really transfer out well (unless your aviation side). Which is where UBI will really help, not just with railroad workers, but workers in general. Need to change industry for X reason? Well you have UBI to assist so you don't eat shit in doing so.

gruez 4y ago

>If people have UBI to cover their most basic needs they could actually have savings and they could use that to maintain their standard of living while they find other work. This assumes that people will plow their UBI into savings, which is a doubtful assumption given how we see very well paid professionals live paycheck to paycheck due to lifestyle inflation.

slifin 4y ago
Not every professional It only needs to be one person to whistleblow That becomes more likely if they don't have to depend on the job to keep a roof over their head and their family doesn't have to be homeless
fsociety 4y ago
If I rephrase the argument, you are saying we should not have UBI to provide the lower class with a safety net because some people are bad with their finances? It could be good to question why some people are bad with their finances, or experience lifestyle inflation. I am going to bet it has less to do with having a safety net or access to more money, and more to do with societal pressure, culture, and mental health.