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Dear home-owner, I like the flowers in your front garden. Please be cool and never change them. I like them there when I drive by from time to time. No I won'

by quitit 4y ago

Dear home-owner, I like the flowers in your front garden. Please be cool and never change them. I like them there when I drive by from time to time. No I won't just take a photo of them, or plant my own. I need you to maintain them, never landscape your property or be uncool. It doesn't bother me that it costs you money to maintain them, you should have planned for that before I had a chance to see your lovely flowers. Please hand this note to the next home owner. Since I want the flowers to live forever and humans don't. Sincerely, Idealism. (tongue firmly in my cheek)

kixiQu 4y ago
Too many gardeners neglect to acquire the necessary mineral rights to prevent broken lilies. Lamentable lack of forethought.
iopq 4y ago
The homeowner is the one that posted about a garden in front of their home in their own newsletter. I came there to find out the garden had been moved, but with no notice of where the new address is. I have to go into the archives to look at the flowers, which means the archive person has to give me images from whenever they took the photo, where it might not be from the same year
- kixiQu 4y ago
  Like, are they? "Their own newsletter" makes it sound like internal links remain broken, something that I will immediately cede is rude to a visitor. But – even if I had publicized something and said "hey everybody come look", it's only social context that determines whether you infer from that "hey everybody come look (forever)". And I think that social context is sort of nonsense. For other people who've created links – that's something they should take care of. I try to clear out my blogroll so people don't see broken links – but no one on that list owed me their permanent web presence.
  - iopq 4y ago
    Yes, if you keep a link on your site, that's an invitation to come look forever until you change the link.
    - kixiQu 4y ago
      Right. But if I move stuff around and fix any preserved internal link, the fact that someone else somewhere had some other link that is now broken: not morally on me, IMO!
npteljes 4y ago
100% in agreement. It might seem cool to imagine an idealistic internet, but in reality it's maintenance, and cost. I feel like the owner is free to change whatever whenever, and it's up to them to weigh the consequences of pissing off potential visitors.

by quitit 4y ago

kixiQu 4y ago

Too many gardeners neglect to acquire the necessary mineral rights to prevent broken lilies. Lamentable lack of forethought.

iopq 4y ago

The homeowner is the one that posted about a garden in front of their home in their own newsletter. I came there to find out the garden had been moved, but with no notice of where the new address is. I have to go into the archives to look at the flowers, which means the archive person has to give me images from whenever they took the photo, where it might not be from the same year

kixiQu 4y ago
Like, are they? "Their own newsletter" makes it sound like internal links remain broken, something that I will immediately cede is rude to a visitor. But – even if I had publicized something and said "hey everybody come look", it's only social context that determines whether you infer from that "hey everybody come look (forever)". And I think that social context is sort of nonsense. For other people who've created links – that's something they should take care of. I try to clear out my blogroll so people don't see broken links – but no one on that list owed me their permanent web presence.
- iopq 4y ago
  Yes, if you keep a link on your site, that's an invitation to come look forever until you change the link.
  - kixiQu 4y ago
    Right. But if I move stuff around and fix any preserved internal link, the fact that someone else somewhere had some other link that is now broken: not morally on me, IMO!

npteljes 4y ago

100% in agreement. It might seem cool to imagine an idealistic internet, but in reality it's maintenance, and cost. I feel like the owner is free to change whatever whenever, and it's up to them to weigh the consequences of pissing off potential visitors.