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Created, not a problem. Destroyed, handle gracefully at different levels, and possibly in different ways across the site depending on editorial policy. Things

Created, not a problem. Destroyed, handle gracefully at different levels, and possibly in different ways across the site depending on editorial policy. Things should generally not just disappear and leave URIs non-functional. Sometimes it does have to happen but those times should be true exceptions.

scoofy 4y ago
I mean, that's all fine and good, but how does one have a descriptive uri, while also having it unchanged? Wikipedia has descriptive URI's, presumably they change over time. I know some folks would prefer never breakage to anything else, but it seems like having a permanent URI with a UUID and a descriptive URI that could change over time, if, say, a building changes it's name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willis_Tower https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willis_Tower https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sears_Tower https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sears_Tower One now redirects. I feel like, yea, it's cool if your URI's never change, but as someone building a wiki, it's really always seemed a problem without a right answer. I'm honestly asking because the only way I know how to build my site with this feature is to just save the previous uri every time the descriptive once changes.
- themodelplumber 4y ago
  Ah, so what you have is a problem that's more special than you can briefly describe for readers here. :-) That's interesting to me, as a topic. Some don't mind having that kind of problem, because it opens a door through which they can gesture at a veritable treasury of details. Details are interesting and very important to them. Perhaps they are even somehow the master of those particular details, for having considered them! Ah ha, great. Others hate it, because they feel like they are springing an unfair trap on innocent passers-by who suggest a simple solution to what seems like a simple problem. I can't say I can solve your problem, and for one it seems different now than it did before, in significant ways. But having walked into it, I can tell you I know this kind of situation! I hope you enjoy puzzling it out, whether through others' ideas or your own well-calibrated wiki-developer brain.
- PeterisP 4y ago
  Redirects is fine. "Cool URIs don't change" refers to the fact that this resource should be reachable on that URI forever, which a redirect solves; changing URIs without keeping the old URI is what many people do and that's not that nice.

scoofy 4y ago

I mean, that's all fine and good, but how does one have a descriptive uri, while also having it unchanged? Wikipedia has descriptive URI's, presumably they change over time. I know some folks would prefer never breakage to anything else, but it seems like having a permanent URI with a UUID and a descriptive URI that could change over time, if, say, a building changes it's name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willis_Tower https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willis_Tower https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sears_Tower https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sears_Tower One now redirects. I feel like, yea, it's cool if your URI's never change, but as someone building a wiki, it's really always seemed a problem without a right answer. I'm honestly asking because the only way I know how to build my site with this feature is to just save the previous uri every time the descriptive once changes.

themodelplumber 4y ago
Ah, so what you have is a problem that's more special than you can briefly describe for readers here. :-) That's interesting to me, as a topic. Some don't mind having that kind of problem, because it opens a door through which they can gesture at a veritable treasury of details. Details are interesting and very important to them. Perhaps they are even somehow the master of those particular details, for having considered them! Ah ha, great. Others hate it, because they feel like they are springing an unfair trap on innocent passers-by who suggest a simple solution to what seems like a simple problem. I can't say I can solve your problem, and for one it seems different now than it did before, in significant ways. But having walked into it, I can tell you I know this kind of situation! I hope you enjoy puzzling it out, whether through others' ideas or your own well-calibrated wiki-developer brain.
PeterisP 4y ago
Redirects is fine. "Cool URIs don't change" refers to the fact that this resource should be reachable on that URI forever, which a redirect solves; changing URIs without keeping the old URI is what many people do and that's not that nice.