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That changes absolutely nothing, it’s still ridiculous and unconstitutional. You have free speech rights even if you’re being paid.

jjulius 4y ago
>That changes absolutely nothing... Right! It does change absolutely nothing - you, me, and most people in this thread, assuming we were Florida residents, would still be free to create our own blogs and discuss our politicians on them without fear of legal repercussions pertaining to this bill. :) >... it’s still ridiculous and unconstitutional. You have free speech rights even if you’re being paid. It is! And I agree. I just disagree that it "changes absolutely nothing". You could be punished if you're a paid blogger, or unpunished and free to speak your mind if you're not paid. That's worth highlighting, because it further underscores just how absurd this bill is.
- hyperpape 4y ago
  I admit, I'm surprised. I read your first post, and did not realize you were trying to criticize the law, rather than suggest it was less harmful.
  - jjulius 4y ago
    I tried my best to quickly highlight a key detail without offering up an opinion one way or another; let other people do that. When pressed further, though, I don't mind clarifying my own thoughts. :)
- quickthrowman 4y ago
  > I just disagree that it "changes absolutely nothing". You could be punished if you're a paid blogger, or unpunished and free to speak your mind if you're not paid. That's worth highlighting, because it further underscores just how absurd this bill is. Thanks for the clarification, I now understand why you disagreed with me saying “changes absolutely nothing”.
junofan 4y ago
Lobbyist registration has repeatedly held up against facial challenges. Why is this different?
- quickthrowman 4y ago
  > “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” Read the emphasized clause, anyone or any organization that is publishing writing about public figures qualifies as ‘the press’
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  Because its not lobbying the government, its political speech directed at the public by private entities, individual or corporate.

jjulius 4y ago

>That changes absolutely nothing... Right! It does change absolutely nothing - you, me, and most people in this thread, assuming we were Florida residents, would still be free to create our own blogs and discuss our politicians on them without fear of legal repercussions pertaining to this bill. :) >... it’s still ridiculous and unconstitutional. You have free speech rights even if you’re being paid. It is! And I agree. I just disagree that it "changes absolutely nothing". You could be punished if you're a paid blogger, or unpunished and free to speak your mind if you're not paid. That's worth highlighting, because it further underscores just how absurd this bill is.

hyperpape 4y ago
I admit, I'm surprised. I read your first post, and did not realize you were trying to criticize the law, rather than suggest it was less harmful.
- jjulius 4y ago
  I tried my best to quickly highlight a key detail without offering up an opinion one way or another; let other people do that. When pressed further, though, I don't mind clarifying my own thoughts. :)
quickthrowman 4y ago
> I just disagree that it "changes absolutely nothing". You could be punished if you're a paid blogger, or unpunished and free to speak your mind if you're not paid. That's worth highlighting, because it further underscores just how absurd this bill is. Thanks for the clarification, I now understand why you disagreed with me saying “changes absolutely nothing”.

junofan 4y ago

Lobbyist registration has repeatedly held up against facial challenges. Why is this different?

quickthrowman 4y ago
> “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” Read the emphasized clause, anyone or any organization that is publishing writing about public figures qualifies as ‘the press’
dragonwriter 4y ago
Because its not lobbying the government, its political speech directed at the public by private entities, individual or corporate.