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Oldest Human Genome from Southern Spain
- casper-ghost 4y agoif we set aside morals, is it scientifically possible to clone them as of now ?
- decremental 4y ago[flagged]
- radicaldreamer 4y agoDNA doesn’t survive very long but bones can and we have much older bones from Africa
- decremental 4y agoBones from something, I'm sure.
- krono 4y agoEast-African Homo Sapiens and so very much "human" bones dated to be approximately 350–130 thousand years old according to https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04275-8 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04275-8
- Rebelgecko 4y agoDoesn't seem contradictory to me tbh. If the person in Spain descended from someone who left Sub-Saharan Africa 50k years earlier, they wouldn't necessarily be closely related to a genetically distinct population in North Africa (especially since IIRC there's evidence of people from Eurasia migrating to North Africa, it wasn't a one-way exodus where people left Africa and only expanded outward)
- edgyquant 4y ago> who left Sub-Saharan Africa 50k years earlier, [citation needed]. We have human bones from outside of Africa that predate this. Some of the oldest are found in the Middle East/Caucasus.
- andsoitis 4y agoCitation: Some of the oldest human remains ever unearthed are the Omo One bones found in Ethiopia. For decades, their precise age has been debated, but a new study argues they're around 233,000 years old. https://www.npr.org/2022/01/13/1072867405/scientists-determine-age-of-some-of-the-oldest-human-bones https://www.npr.org/2022/01/13/1072867405/scientists-determi...
- Rebelgecko 4y agoThere's a good amount of evidence showing multiple migrations out of Africa (https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cell.2020.01.012 https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cell.2020.01.012, http://dx.doi.org/10.53846/goediss-9012 http://dx.doi.org/10.53846/goediss-9012). The presence of someone who came after the oldest hypothesized migration doesn't negate previous waves.
- m0llusk 4y agoIt is way more complicated than that. Even within Africa different groups moved around and exchanged with each other, then out of Africa there was intermingling along with returns to Africa and yet more migrations out of Africa.
- gvd 4y agoI refuse coming from Spain /s
- okokwhatever 4y agoI refuse your refusal
- IncRnd 4y agoTo keep agreement, I refuse.
- okokwhatever 4y agoReverse
- waster 4y agoOldest Homo sapiens remains are from much earlier, Morocco region, appx 300k years ago. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/essential-timeline-understanding-evolution-homo-sapiens-180976807/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/essential-time...
- Teever 4y agoIs that what the article says? Or is that just your interpretation of the headline?
- IncRnd 4y agoThis is about the the oldest genome that was found in Southern Spain. It's not saying that the oldest genome was found in Spain. Though, there may be something to what you said with this statement from the article: "In Malalmuerzo, we found no evidence of a genetic contribution from North African lineages, and conversely, there is no evidence of a genetic contribution from southern Spain in the genomes of the 14,000-year-old individuals from the Taforalt cave in Morocco," said Gerd-Christian Weniger from the University of Cologne.
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- twelvechairs 4y agoTo be clear this is the 'oldest from Southern Spain' at ~23k years old. The oldest full genomes found are ~45k years old including one in Czechia (Zlatý kůň), one in Siberia (Ust’-Ishim), one in East Asia (Tianyuan) and one from Romania (Oase 1) [0] [0] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-021-01443-x https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-021-01443-x
- WaitWaitWha 4y agoMy conjecture is that if I think of the Alboran, Balearic, Ligurian, Tyrrhenian, Ionean, Adriatic, Mediterranean, and Aegean seas as a single body of water, humans just kept going around it in clock- & counter-clockwise wise, over and over. Or maybe in an infinity symbol (∞) fashion, crossing at Gibraltar, between Al Huwariyah and Marsala, and of course at the Sea of Marmara or even the Greek isles.