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Pete Buttigieg got pilloried last time he ran for president for a) not having enough experience and b) for being ex-McKinsey, which sank him on the left. He’s g

Pete Buttigieg got pilloried last time he ran for president for a) not having enough experience and b) for being ex-McKinsey, which sank him on the left. He’s got an opportunity now to take one of the worst examples of wall-streetism to the woodshed over spilling a bunch of toxic chemicals in a residential neighborhood because of penny-pinching, which seems like it should be the easiest political slam-dunk in the world for a Democrat in 2023 - it’ll be interesting to see if he actually does so.

nebula8804 4y ago
I think its too late to recover from this. If he was going to act it should have been before the Republicans did. Pete and the Dems seem like they are just trying to move on from this as quick as possible but I don't get them, you can't just move on when so many people are looking at this disaster.
- deleted 4y ago
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- roughly 4y ago
  There’s still an opportunity when the report comes out. I agree, though, I don’t think they’re going to. I suspect it has to do with the feds breaking the train worker strike a couple months ago, which was already a pretty severe political own-goal - I think you’re right, they’re hoping people stop talking about trains.
  - nebula8804 4y ago
    The consensus among "progressive media" seems to be that they don't want to set a precedent where they do actionable change after a crisis. This could hurt them with their donors in future incidents so their strategy is to somehow get people move on from this. Maybe it will be continued media blackout or something dumb will be coming that will take up the news cycle(eg. Chinese Balloons). It is infuriating especially after they were given a lifeline by their voters in the midterms. Its a never ending clown show with both the left and the right.
twh270 4y ago
He'll take them out behind the woodshed, give them a stern talking to, and then give them a handshake and a "Thanks for this truly productive discussion, see you at our usual watering-hole tonight?" Maybe a few weak regulations will be improved and Democrats will loudly proclaiming how hard they are "cracking down" on unsafe practices. There will be no real change unless the political winds (i.e., voters) demand it so strongly that Democrats have no other choice. Both parties are beholden to corporate money and interests.
sbaiddn 4y ago
I didn't know Petey's ex-McKinsey! I know McKinsey people, Ive been to their parties. Rubbed shoulders. Not impressed. Last time I was with them, in a room of 100 people, two were cool. One joined when his company got bought out. The other one was his wife. None of them struck me as particularly above average, except for ego and ambition. Minus one for Pete.
- eastbayjake 4y ago
  The sort of argument-by-anecdote that makes Hacker News such an interesting, informative, civilized forum to read these days - thanks for your contribution
  - sbaiddn 4y ago
    Thanks :) I figured it was more personable than yet another rehashing of all of McKinsey's scandals. After all who cares if they masterminded Pursue Pharma to get an entire region addicted to smack?
- sumedh 4y ago
  > in a room of 100 people, two were cool. You talked to all the 100 people? Did you also tell them that you were at the party to be impressed?
  - sbaiddn 4y ago
    You have to talk to someone to gauge them? You never study their behavior, how they comport themselves around others? Adolescents with daddy's keys to daddy's merc. is how Id describe them.

nebula8804 4y ago

I think its too late to recover from this. If he was going to act it should have been before the Republicans did. Pete and the Dems seem like they are just trying to move on from this as quick as possible but I don't get them, you can't just move on when so many people are looking at this disaster.

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roughly 4y ago
There’s still an opportunity when the report comes out. I agree, though, I don’t think they’re going to. I suspect it has to do with the feds breaking the train worker strike a couple months ago, which was already a pretty severe political own-goal - I think you’re right, they’re hoping people stop talking about trains.
- nebula8804 4y ago
  The consensus among "progressive media" seems to be that they don't want to set a precedent where they do actionable change after a crisis. This could hurt them with their donors in future incidents so their strategy is to somehow get people move on from this. Maybe it will be continued media blackout or something dumb will be coming that will take up the news cycle(eg. Chinese Balloons). It is infuriating especially after they were given a lifeline by their voters in the midterms. Its a never ending clown show with both the left and the right.

twh270 4y ago

He'll take them out behind the woodshed, give them a stern talking to, and then give them a handshake and a "Thanks for this truly productive discussion, see you at our usual watering-hole tonight?" Maybe a few weak regulations will be improved and Democrats will loudly proclaiming how hard they are "cracking down" on unsafe practices. There will be no real change unless the political winds (i.e., voters) demand it so strongly that Democrats have no other choice. Both parties are beholden to corporate money and interests.

sbaiddn 4y ago

I didn't know Petey's ex-McKinsey! I know McKinsey people, Ive been to their parties. Rubbed shoulders. Not impressed. Last time I was with them, in a room of 100 people, two were cool. One joined when his company got bought out. The other one was his wife. None of them struck me as particularly above average, except for ego and ambition. Minus one for Pete.

eastbayjake 4y ago
The sort of argument-by-anecdote that makes Hacker News such an interesting, informative, civilized forum to read these days - thanks for your contribution
- sbaiddn 4y ago
  Thanks :) I figured it was more personable than yet another rehashing of all of McKinsey's scandals. After all who cares if they masterminded Pursue Pharma to get an entire region addicted to smack?
sumedh 4y ago
> in a room of 100 people, two were cool. You talked to all the 100 people? Did you also tell them that you were at the party to be impressed?
- sbaiddn 4y ago
  You have to talk to someone to gauge them? You never study their behavior, how they comport themselves around others? Adolescents with daddy's keys to daddy's merc. is how Id describe them.