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I tried to be open minded, but after my friend demoed his FSD "beta" to me I want these things banned. It drove worse than a drunk student driver and I legitim

I tried to be open minded, but after my friend demoed his FSD "beta" to me I want these things banned. It drove worse than a drunk student driver and I legitimately feared for my life and made him stop after only a few minutes. "Beta testing" such things on the general public is morally abhorrent. Let Musk by some land in a desert and build his own mock town to test his toys, but get it off the public roads.

brandonagr2 4y ago
Your friend is responsible for the operation of the vehicle, letting it drive in an unsafe manner was his fault as he is always in complete control
- slackdog 4y ago
  Enabling FSD Beta is categorically irresponsible. To hear him praise such an abysmal product definitely altered the way I consider him. He's still my friend but I'm now aware of a new dimension to his personality; he has poor judgement when it comes to fancy gadgets. I now see that he is prone to getting swept up in futurism and gadget consumerism. I told him this and we agreed to disagree, so long as he never enables that shit with me in the car again.
starik36 4y ago
How does that square with a dozen people driving FSD and posting it on YouTube weekly. Quite successfully too. Here is one example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3DCiSFakmI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3DCiSFakmI
- slackdog 4y ago
  I don't need to square anything, my experience is what it is. It nearly drove us into other cars several times in the span of only a few minutes. It's total trash.
  - starik36 4y ago
    It is absolutely not "total trash", as other actually documented videos suggest. I use the AutoSteer (not FSD) feature and it is absolutely fantastic.
gptgpp 4y ago
You'll get no argument from me. Mine is in the FSD beta, and I never use it after similar experiences. The worst part is that for some people, FSD does seem to work exceptionally well. But I am in rural Canada, and the thing is a death trap here. I imagine in wealthy pockets with an abundance of Teslas (and subsequent data/attention, well maintained roads, mapping, etc.), it probably does handle really well. You can just look at what the imaging is picking up and displaying on the console to see this stuff is just not ready. Mine rapidly flickers between trucks, cones, pedestrians, etc. The traffic lights do this too. I imagine it is the same on all Teslas, so even at the image detection level something is really underbaked.

brandonagr2 4y ago

Your friend is responsible for the operation of the vehicle, letting it drive in an unsafe manner was his fault as he is always in complete control

slackdog 4y ago
Enabling FSD Beta is categorically irresponsible. To hear him praise such an abysmal product definitely altered the way I consider him. He's still my friend but I'm now aware of a new dimension to his personality; he has poor judgement when it comes to fancy gadgets. I now see that he is prone to getting swept up in futurism and gadget consumerism. I told him this and we agreed to disagree, so long as he never enables that shit with me in the car again.

starik36 4y ago

How does that square with a dozen people driving FSD and posting it on YouTube weekly. Quite successfully too. Here is one example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3DCiSFakmI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3DCiSFakmI

slackdog 4y ago
I don't need to square anything, my experience is what it is. It nearly drove us into other cars several times in the span of only a few minutes. It's total trash.
- starik36 4y ago
  It is absolutely not "total trash", as other actually documented videos suggest. I use the AutoSteer (not FSD) feature and it is absolutely fantastic.

gptgpp 4y ago

You'll get no argument from me. Mine is in the FSD beta, and I never use it after similar experiences. The worst part is that for some people, FSD does seem to work exceptionally well. But I am in rural Canada, and the thing is a death trap here. I imagine in wealthy pockets with an abundance of Teslas (and subsequent data/attention, well maintained roads, mapping, etc.), it probably does handle really well. You can just look at what the imaging is picking up and displaying on the console to see this stuff is just not ready. Mine rapidly flickers between trucks, cones, pedestrians, etc. The traffic lights do this too. I imagine it is the same on all Teslas, so even at the image detection level something is really underbaked.