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It’s not Tesla’s fault that CBS runs a story every time someone crashes their Model Y. If you’re reading about a Tesla crash odds are it wasn’t on autopilot. Th

by valine 4y ago

It’s not Tesla’s fault that CBS runs a story every time someone crashes their Model Y. If you’re reading about a Tesla crash odds are it wasn’t on autopilot. The news is happy to run the story either way because it generates clicks.

Analemma_ 4y ago
It is Tesla's fault that they 1) apply the label "Full Self-Driving" to a system that is not even close to full self-driving, 2) push extremely-untested beta software out to millions of cars on the road where every other company proceeds with extreme caution and 3) try for camera-only sensing even though literally nobody in the industry except Elon Musk thinks this will be good enough. Anyone could have predicted these three things would eventually shatter public self-confidence in self-driving cars, which is exactly what has happened. Stop making excuses for them.
- brandonagr2 4y ago
  It is full self driving, the car computer is controlling steering and acceleration. That doesn't mean it's autonomous, there must be a human driver monitoring and responsible for its operation at all times.
- jjoonathan 4y ago
  They absolutely test releases ahead of time. They test on more data & better data than anyone else and they dogfood every version before wide release, which they still call a beta. They used to gate it behind a safety score until it started to get good and they still have not-paying-attention detection, nags, and lockouts. But yeah, if you don't consider any of their testing and precautions I guess they don't have any testing and precautions.
- valine 4y ago
  If the software is so dangerous where are all the crashes? FSD beta is running on 400k+ vehicles. I’ve got it running on my car and my biggest complaint is that the software is too hesitant. You can complain about Tesla’s methodology all you want, but when the rubber hits the road they do an excellent job of maintaining driver attentiveness, which all but guarantees safety. If public confidence is shattered it has very little to do with the quality of Teslas software and everything to do with the currently fashionable narrative in media.

by valine 4y ago

Analemma_ 4y ago

It is Tesla's fault that they 1) apply the label "Full Self-Driving" to a system that is not even close to full self-driving, 2) push extremely-untested beta software out to millions of cars on the road where every other company proceeds with extreme caution and 3) try for camera-only sensing even though literally nobody in the industry except Elon Musk thinks this will be good enough. Anyone could have predicted these three things would eventually shatter public self-confidence in self-driving cars, which is exactly what has happened. Stop making excuses for them.

brandonagr2 4y ago
It is full self driving, the car computer is controlling steering and acceleration. That doesn't mean it's autonomous, there must be a human driver monitoring and responsible for its operation at all times.
jjoonathan 4y ago
They absolutely test releases ahead of time. They test on more data & better data than anyone else and they dogfood every version before wide release, which they still call a beta. They used to gate it behind a safety score until it started to get good and they still have not-paying-attention detection, nags, and lockouts. But yeah, if you don't consider any of their testing and precautions I guess they don't have any testing and precautions.
valine 4y ago
If the software is so dangerous where are all the crashes? FSD beta is running on 400k+ vehicles. I’ve got it running on my car and my biggest complaint is that the software is too hesitant. You can complain about Tesla’s methodology all you want, but when the rubber hits the road they do an excellent job of maintaining driver attentiveness, which all but guarantees safety. If public confidence is shattered it has very little to do with the quality of Teslas software and everything to do with the currently fashionable narrative in media.