Thunderbolt doesn't add power delivery, USB does. They are two different protocols, and you mentioned Thunderbolt. > (Given Apple fanboy view of world, then) w

Thunderbolt doesn't add power delivery, USB does. They are two different protocols, and you mentioned Thunderbolt. > (Given Apple fanboy view of world, then) why can I charge an Apple laptop with a random USB-C cable? Not that I appreciate the tone here, but yes, you could charge an Apple laptop with what you would call "random" USB-C cable, as long as it delivers the necessary wattage. That is not the issue at hand, though. > Why would that logic not apply to iPhones too? It could. But there are orders of magnitude more phones than laptops, and laptop users tend to use, well, their laptop chargers for the most part. Still, I have seen one or two laptop motherboards essentially melted, because they were overdrawing power. By the way, I never argued that Apple should create a new standard, or a new certification program. What I originally said was that I wish that Apple would prevent cables that are not PD compliant from working with their devices, because USB-IF sucks at enforcing this.