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This isn't really a new thing. Back when I was a planning masters student ~2009 I remember hearing about how we were part of the U.N.'s "Agenda 21" conspiracy t

This isn't really a new thing. Back when I was a planning masters student ~2009 I remember hearing about how we were part of the U.N.'s "Agenda 21" conspiracy to round up humanity into survivability zones or some such. Most of us were just nerds for public transportation or bicycling, and the idea of riding around in black helicopters sounded very high carbon footprint. Still, it was kind of wild to be implicated in a conspiracy. Except for the few scary times where I encountered people who were true believers, it was maybe even a little fun. After all, the first thing you learn as a planning student / planner in the US, is that you have absolutely no power to do anything.

dsfyu404ed 4y ago
I think the problem is that 9/10 people involved are nerds who genuinely want good things and then 1/10 is a jackbooted jerk who doesn't care about your things except as a means to implementing their jackboot fantasies and the little details they champion poison the whole effort. Like for example having a traffic restricted at certain times road is fine and all. But implementing it with surveillance cameras knowing full well that "gotcha" tickets will be issued to out-of-towners, the system will be laden with all the perverse incentives that red light cameras are known for and that there's some yet to be defined permitting process (i.e. avenue for graft, preferential treatment of various types of uses, etc). Just put a fucking gate on it during the times you want it closed and call it good. Why do they always have to go 1984 like this? Like imagine they did this with a park or some other taxpayer funded resource that's equally open for public use. People wouldn't stand for it.