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No, I'm willing to bet the CO2 cost of the cards is also way higher than the electricity. Those things are built on the global supply chain, with materials pote
by CGamesPlay 4y ago
No, I'm willing to bet the CO2 cost of the cards is also way higher than the electricity. Those things are built on the global supply chain, with materials potentially making multiple thousands of kms journeys between each step.
- yunwal 4y agoLong term I also imagine it's much cheaper to run these large model trainings on renewables. It's a very centralized process that doesn't necessarily need 100% availability. The manufacturing process, however, is totally decentralized, and NVIDIA mostly manufactures in China where coal is cheap.
- verall 4y agoA100s are manufactured in Taiwan.
- yunwal 4y agoTrue, but previous chips have been manufactured in China, and they’re also developing and manufacturing their successor to A100s (H100s) in China. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/01/nvidia-says-us-government-allows-ai-chip-development-in-china.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/01/nvidia-says-us-government-al...
- verall 4y agoThat says "partially developed" in China. H100s will probably be manufactured in Taiwan just like other x100 chips. All consumer SKUs that I know of are manufactured in China. By volume this is certainly the majority of manufacturing.
- Taek 4y agoI believe in terms of climate impact the chips (made in Taiwan) overwhelm everything else.
- Taek 4y agoBecause the cards are so expensive, you really do want them running 24/7. The electricity is not a big deal for these really expensive chips