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It's important not to actually try to address this nonsense. The idea here not to honestly engage. It's to oppose all change on principal, and pretend it's for

It's important not to actually try to address this nonsense. The idea here not to honestly engage. It's to oppose all change on principal, and pretend it's for some reason (the theory) when it's really just a matter of (bad) personal choices. It's the equivalent of the Chewbacca defence but for public discourse: no one can make any progress if someone just screams nonsense constantly and that suits the person screaming...

aquarium87 4y ago
And what if governments are always spouting nonsense and implementing it because they have nothing better to do? I don't know these as 15 minute cities, I know these as anti-urban sprawl, pro-environment, anti-car neighborhoods. And the push has been on for over a decade to make this happen. Now that it's here, it's worse than thought. It's not just planning these things and letting people live and work close to home or not. It's more of a forcing function where the entire system is built as a turn-key totalitarian physical prison. Only a fool would buy into this. And yet the places where these decisions are made (city council), nobody cares about and big money will pour in. It only takes 6 figures in a 5 figure race to buy a couple seats and implement radical environmental anti-human policy.
- LatteLazy 4y ago
  Well I don't think anyone is buying politicians for PRO environmental legislation but... I have to give you credit: at least you are just up front about not wanting this. That's fine. You're a citizen with a right to a view etc. I only object when people start pretending it's all part of some shadow government, new world order, lizard people plot...
  - aquarium87 4y ago
    And yet it is. But not the way you think. It's all about elite groupthink. They have drinks and talk stuff over and turn their noses up at each other until they are on the same page as to what is desirable and then judge each other based on these elitist social goals and who can achieve them and cement their names immortal. And anyone that gets in the way.... Fired, defunded, shunned, labeled conspiracy theorist etc. And just you wait. The money isn't flowing yet, but it will. For a city of a million people, maybe buying 8-10 councillors for $100,000 each will accomplish any goal. And noone cares enough about city politics to stop that kind of thing.

aquarium87 4y ago

And what if governments are always spouting nonsense and implementing it because they have nothing better to do? I don't know these as 15 minute cities, I know these as anti-urban sprawl, pro-environment, anti-car neighborhoods. And the push has been on for over a decade to make this happen. Now that it's here, it's worse than thought. It's not just planning these things and letting people live and work close to home or not. It's more of a forcing function where the entire system is built as a turn-key totalitarian physical prison. Only a fool would buy into this. And yet the places where these decisions are made (city council), nobody cares about and big money will pour in. It only takes 6 figures in a 5 figure race to buy a couple seats and implement radical environmental anti-human policy.

LatteLazy 4y ago
Well I don't think anyone is buying politicians for PRO environmental legislation but... I have to give you credit: at least you are just up front about not wanting this. That's fine. You're a citizen with a right to a view etc. I only object when people start pretending it's all part of some shadow government, new world order, lizard people plot...
- aquarium87 4y ago
  And yet it is. But not the way you think. It's all about elite groupthink. They have drinks and talk stuff over and turn their noses up at each other until they are on the same page as to what is desirable and then judge each other based on these elitist social goals and who can achieve them and cement their names immortal. And anyone that gets in the way.... Fired, defunded, shunned, labeled conspiracy theorist etc. And just you wait. The money isn't flowing yet, but it will. For a city of a million people, maybe buying 8-10 councillors for $100,000 each will accomplish any goal. And noone cares enough about city politics to stop that kind of thing.