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What do you mean by that? Admittedly, I'm not in the US, but it seems to me that tech work is a very respected profession. Especially compared to service work.

What do you mean by that? Admittedly, I'm not in the US, but it seems to me that tech work is a very respected profession. Especially compared to service work. The notion that someone would leave the tech world for a job in the service industry because it comes with more respect is absolutely wild to me. That's so far away from my personal experience I honestly can't fit it into my mental model of the world. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, or maybe your experience is actually super different from mine. Either way I'd be very interested in an elaboration.

selimthegrim 4y ago
> The notion that someone would leave the tech world for a job in the service industry because it comes with more respect is absolutely wild to me. There are definitely tourist-heavy parts of the US where this is absolutely true.
GoToRO 4y ago
(not US) It seems the whole setup is constructed to make you feel bad, no appreciation for work delivered, every technical argument is seen as an excuse, deadlines have nothing to do with reality an so on. When I interacted with blue collars, they got more respect from their boss or colleagues. Of course, "working with the public" is different and I would guess the only job that is more toxic than programming.
- gvedem 4y ago
  >It seems the whole setup is constructed to make you feel bad, no appreciation for work delivered, every technical argument is seen as an excuse, deadlines have nothing to do with reality an so on it seems like everyone in this thread saying "tech workers get no respect" actually just work for shit companies...
  - ornornor 4y ago
    There are a lot of shit companies out there. In fact, I’d posit the average company is a shit company.
  - zer0tonin 4y ago
    Well, there's probably a lot more shit companies than decent ones out there
- epgui 4y ago
  You think nobody listens to engineers? Ha… Try being in life/biomedical sciences.
- bovermyer 4y ago
  I don't think this is because of tech work. I think this is because of bad management, which is not restricted to tech work. It's probably not even more common in tech work.

selimthegrim 4y ago

> The notion that someone would leave the tech world for a job in the service industry because it comes with more respect is absolutely wild to me. There are definitely tourist-heavy parts of the US where this is absolutely true.

GoToRO 4y ago

(not US) It seems the whole setup is constructed to make you feel bad, no appreciation for work delivered, every technical argument is seen as an excuse, deadlines have nothing to do with reality an so on. When I interacted with blue collars, they got more respect from their boss or colleagues. Of course, "working with the public" is different and I would guess the only job that is more toxic than programming.

gvedem 4y ago
>It seems the whole setup is constructed to make you feel bad, no appreciation for work delivered, every technical argument is seen as an excuse, deadlines have nothing to do with reality an so on it seems like everyone in this thread saying "tech workers get no respect" actually just work for shit companies...
- ornornor 4y ago
  There are a lot of shit companies out there. In fact, I’d posit the average company is a shit company.
- zer0tonin 4y ago
  Well, there's probably a lot more shit companies than decent ones out there
epgui 4y ago
You think nobody listens to engineers? Ha… Try being in life/biomedical sciences.
bovermyer 4y ago
I don't think this is because of tech work. I think this is because of bad management, which is not restricted to tech work. It's probably not even more common in tech work.