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I am French so the wording part did not reach us yet (we still have one word for deaf and blind, and handicapped (disabled)). What unfortunately is present is

I am French so the wording part did not reach us yet (we still have one word for deaf and blind, and handicapped (disabled)). What unfortunately is present is the way disabled people are perceived, intellect-wise. I can talk of two examples: a wheel-chaired guy in my team, and my wife who got progressively disabled due to MS. The way they are addressed is different from the way others are addressed; It seems that people will be less inclined to argue with them (because god knows what can happen to these feeble people, who should also be shielded from this because of their physical disability that also affects their intellect), but also treat them more child-like. This is infuriating because they are progressively pushed away from the normal interactions in life (for their own good, poor beings) and there is not much they can do to avoid this. My wife still has the character she had but somehow cannot express it anymore because her interactions get so washed down that it is disturbing to watch. Her disability is not that visible yet so she still has some time, but the guy in my team is really fed up with that.

iLoveOncall 4y ago
> I am French so the wording part did not reach us yet This is not true at all. The absolute trainwreck that is "écriture inclusive" is spearheading those inclusivity initiatives, and we have also incorporated a lot of the other words mentioned here in the language.
- BrandoElFollito 4y ago
  écriture inclusive is basically non-existent in France, whee did you see it except on some university pages that wanted to be "ahead of their time"? It is BTW forbidden by the ministry of education. Which other words have we incorporated? Un handicapé is a disabled person. We do not have any "mobility challenged" words. Aveugle is blind, malvoyant is vision impaired (which is not the same, one being an extreme of the other). There was an attempt to use iel as il+elle (he+she). The only places you can read it is in articles that debate whether it is a good thing on not. It is completely absent elsewhere. Now - my comment was about everything except that intro line.
  - Nemrod67 4y ago
    Guess you never heard the joke about the Education Nationale using the term "Référentiel Bondissant" to designate balloons/balls... Quick search indicates it was used by the Grenoble academy at one point in the 2000s XD
    - BrandoElFollito 4y ago
      This is indeed unexpected (details at https://www.liberation.fr/societe/2015/05/26/referentiel-rebondissant-l-affaire-rebondit_1316547/ https://www.liberation.fr/societe/2015/05/26/referentiel-reb..., in French obviously). This said there has always been some insanities here and there in the administration - but they remain funny. I know "outil scripteur" for instance (this is a pen)
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iLoveOncall 4y ago

> I am French so the wording part did not reach us yet This is not true at all. The absolute trainwreck that is "écriture inclusive" is spearheading those inclusivity initiatives, and we have also incorporated a lot of the other words mentioned here in the language.

BrandoElFollito 4y ago
écriture inclusive is basically non-existent in France, whee did you see it except on some university pages that wanted to be "ahead of their time"? It is BTW forbidden by the ministry of education. Which other words have we incorporated? Un handicapé is a disabled person. We do not have any "mobility challenged" words. Aveugle is blind, malvoyant is vision impaired (which is not the same, one being an extreme of the other). There was an attempt to use iel as il+elle (he+she). The only places you can read it is in articles that debate whether it is a good thing on not. It is completely absent elsewhere. Now - my comment was about everything except that intro line.
- Nemrod67 4y ago
  Guess you never heard the joke about the Education Nationale using the term "Référentiel Bondissant" to designate balloons/balls... Quick search indicates it was used by the Grenoble academy at one point in the 2000s XD
  - BrandoElFollito 4y ago
    This is indeed unexpected (details at https://www.liberation.fr/societe/2015/05/26/referentiel-rebondissant-l-affaire-rebondit_1316547/ https://www.liberation.fr/societe/2015/05/26/referentiel-reb..., in French obviously). This said there has always been some insanities here and there in the administration - but they remain funny. I know "outil scripteur" for instance (this is a pen)

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