2 ms·

Chinese people are brought up in an environment that tells them to support the CCP and where vocal dissent is punished. Their centrally controlled media ecosyst

Chinese people are brought up in an environment that tells them to support the CCP and where vocal dissent is punished. Their centrally controlled media ecosystem is rigged against them being able to think and speak clearly on this issue. They have been the primary victims of the CCP since its inception. Also, Chinese people aren't a monolith. If you sorted Chinese people by how jingoistic they are I would probably dislike the top 10-20% or so on that basis but that doesn't generalize to every Chinese person, even those that tow the socially expected line of "supporting" the CCP.

senttoschool 4y ago
I’ve lived in China and have friends there. People there aren’t told to love the CCP. They all have gripes about it like any people would have for their government. It’s not like North Korea. They do not want to overthrow it because the country is stable and their lives are improving. You underestimate the power the people have over the government. When Chinese are pissed off, they will go on the streets and protest and demand changes. Just check the riots over banks and real estate there recently. And why does the CCP want Taiwan back? It’s because their people demand Taiwan back. I find it hilarious when people say they love Chinese people but hate the CCP. Either they’re disingenuous because they dislike both or they don’t understand China.
- hackerlight 4y ago
  The CCP will allow a certain level of protest as a release valve but to extend that to the claim that the people can just casually "overthrow" an authoritarian state when push comes to shove is not right. If it reached a boiling point the tanks would roll out and the protesters would be killed or imprisoned. > I’ve lived in China and have friends there. People there aren’t told to love the CCP. Again, managed dissent. The real dissenters are in prison or worse. > It’s not like North Korea. I already said there's worse alternatives than the CCP. That doesn't absolve it from being an authoritarian dictatorship. > I find it hilarious when people say they love Chinese people but hate the CCP. Either they’re disingenuous because they dislike both or they don’t understand China. I already explained this to you, so either you are being disingenuous or you are determined to have a monologue. I am ending it here because this is a low value conversation.
  - senttoschool 4y ago
    Have you ever been to China? Where do you get your news source?

senttoschool 4y ago

I’ve lived in China and have friends there. People there aren’t told to love the CCP. They all have gripes about it like any people would have for their government. It’s not like North Korea. They do not want to overthrow it because the country is stable and their lives are improving. You underestimate the power the people have over the government. When Chinese are pissed off, they will go on the streets and protest and demand changes. Just check the riots over banks and real estate there recently. And why does the CCP want Taiwan back? It’s because their people demand Taiwan back. I find it hilarious when people say they love Chinese people but hate the CCP. Either they’re disingenuous because they dislike both or they don’t understand China.

hackerlight 4y ago
The CCP will allow a certain level of protest as a release valve but to extend that to the claim that the people can just casually "overthrow" an authoritarian state when push comes to shove is not right. If it reached a boiling point the tanks would roll out and the protesters would be killed or imprisoned. > I’ve lived in China and have friends there. People there aren’t told to love the CCP. Again, managed dissent. The real dissenters are in prison or worse. > It’s not like North Korea. I already said there's worse alternatives than the CCP. That doesn't absolve it from being an authoritarian dictatorship. > I find it hilarious when people say they love Chinese people but hate the CCP. Either they’re disingenuous because they dislike both or they don’t understand China. I already explained this to you, so either you are being disingenuous or you are determined to have a monologue. I am ending it here because this is a low value conversation.
- senttoschool 4y ago
  Have you ever been to China? Where do you get your news source?