Addendum (since quite many upvotes): for the latter, they break a team of 8 (this is already a small team apart from the whole org) into 2 teams each 4 and brea

Addendum (since quite many upvotes): for the latter, they break a team of 8 (this is already a small team apart from the whole org) into 2 teams each 4 and break a monolith app into 2 microservices. At the time I saw that, the company started to have more and more managers. Guess what, not even making a break-even yet!