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Hyundai’s lane keep is so bad that I don’t trust it at all. In the three times I’ve tried to use it, it started to veer off the road suddenly and in strange wa

Hyundai’s lane keep is so bad that I don’t trust it at all. In the three times I’ve tried to use it, it started to veer off the road suddenly and in strange ways on even the slightest curve. It should be recalled and disabled.

fshbbdssbbgdd 4y ago
Hyundai has sold cars with multiple different systems in recent years (HDA2 is better than HDA1).
- xattt 4y ago
  HDA1 is more robust Lane Keep Assist that takes into account mapped highway curves and adjusts speed and steering accordingly. The car might as well be on rails. I haven’t had issues with vanilla LKA on a non-HDA mapped road other than expected problems where lane markings or shoulders are unclear. Perhaps grandparent poster has a misaligned camera on their vehicle.
hd95489 4y ago
No problem with it on ioniq 5. The equivalent on the Kia was disastrous implementation. The one on Toyota is simple but robust as well
- guelo 4y ago
  Nissan's ProPILOT Assist has been pretty trustworthy for me.
- bwhitty 4y ago
  Yes, another anecdote to add to this thread of anecdotes is that my HI5 with HDA2 is stellar. I do hours at a time on highways in CA without a disengage.
  - dmix 4y ago
    Does it follow the car in front's speed on the highway while keeping you in the lane? I would absolutely love a car that could do that well while I still paid attention while listening to podcasts/audiobooks. I haven't tried any newish midtier cars, only been in a friends Tesla which is beyond my needs. These niche applications are 100% what car companies should have focused on from the beginning rather than robotaxis.
    - a_t48 4y ago
      My Jetta GLI can do this. ACC is good, if there’s a hard stop it will beep at me to brake, or brake itself hard later. The lane centering worked great in WA (with a tweak to the options to enable stronger centering) and works pretty good in CA (lane lines aren’t always as clear). Basically I only have to give a very light touch on the steering wheel, the car mostly just follows the road. The system overall is not perfect but it’s great in stop and go and pretty good in regular traffic. My single test drive with a Civic was similar but I didn’t test out the ADAS so much (and they wanted too much for it).
      - rnk 4y ago
        Recent Toyotas like a Corolla can do this.
        hd95489 4y ago
        Yep you can rent any modern Corolla and test the feature out. Most rental cars have this
    - hd95489 4y ago
      Yes for the most part. It’s good enough to say look around and enjoy the view off a bridge or check a text message but not enough to write a long text or read an article
- lostlogin 4y ago
  > The one on Toyota is simple but robust as well This sounds like everything Toyota does.
  - rnk 4y ago
    A lot of new cars can do this. Rivian, etc.
SkyPuncher 4y ago
Lane keep is not the same as lane centering. I have a 2020 Palisade with lane centering. It works incredibly well. I've driven through Chicago highways with only management for lane changes. I literally will not buy a car without lane centering after having this car.
- CyanBird 4y ago
  > Lane keep is not the same as lane centering These are God awful naming schemes, completely misleading for the common consumer and bizantine in naming. Near purposefully misleading
  - SkyPuncher 4y ago
    I think it was a bit of organic confusion. The challenge is they all do very, very similar things. It's just to what degree. It does seem they starting to standardize the naming.
  - Tempest1981 4y ago
    Summary of the 3 different types (LKA, LCA, and LDW), and what each manufacturer called them last year: - https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/lane-departure-warning-lane-keeping-assist-guide-a7087080070/ https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/lane-departure-wa... The US NHTSA specifies the names here: - L*A: https://www.nhtsa.gov/equipment/driver-assistance-technologies#driving-control-assistance-30676 https://www.nhtsa.gov/equipment/driver-assistance-technologi... - LDW: https://www.nhtsa.gov/equipment/driver-assistance-technologies#collision-warning-30631 https://www.nhtsa.gov/equipment/driver-assistance-technologi... W = Warning, A = Assist (Curious what names are used outside the US)

fshbbdssbbgdd 4y ago

Hyundai has sold cars with multiple different systems in recent years (HDA2 is better than HDA1).

xattt 4y ago
HDA1 is more robust Lane Keep Assist that takes into account mapped highway curves and adjusts speed and steering accordingly. The car might as well be on rails. I haven’t had issues with vanilla LKA on a non-HDA mapped road other than expected problems where lane markings or shoulders are unclear. Perhaps grandparent poster has a misaligned camera on their vehicle.

hd95489 4y ago

No problem with it on ioniq 5. The equivalent on the Kia was disastrous implementation. The one on Toyota is simple but robust as well

guelo 4y ago
Nissan's ProPILOT Assist has been pretty trustworthy for me.
bwhitty 4y ago
Yes, another anecdote to add to this thread of anecdotes is that my HI5 with HDA2 is stellar. I do hours at a time on highways in CA without a disengage.
- dmix 4y ago
  Does it follow the car in front's speed on the highway while keeping you in the lane? I would absolutely love a car that could do that well while I still paid attention while listening to podcasts/audiobooks. I haven't tried any newish midtier cars, only been in a friends Tesla which is beyond my needs. These niche applications are 100% what car companies should have focused on from the beginning rather than robotaxis.
  - a_t48 4y ago
    My Jetta GLI can do this. ACC is good, if there’s a hard stop it will beep at me to brake, or brake itself hard later. The lane centering worked great in WA (with a tweak to the options to enable stronger centering) and works pretty good in CA (lane lines aren’t always as clear). Basically I only have to give a very light touch on the steering wheel, the car mostly just follows the road. The system overall is not perfect but it’s great in stop and go and pretty good in regular traffic. My single test drive with a Civic was similar but I didn’t test out the ADAS so much (and they wanted too much for it).
    - rnk 4y ago
      Recent Toyotas like a Corolla can do this.
      - hd95489 4y ago
        Yep you can rent any modern Corolla and test the feature out. Most rental cars have this
  - hd95489 4y ago
    Yes for the most part. It’s good enough to say look around and enjoy the view off a bridge or check a text message but not enough to write a long text or read an article
lostlogin 4y ago
> The one on Toyota is simple but robust as well This sounds like everything Toyota does.
- rnk 4y ago
  A lot of new cars can do this. Rivian, etc.

SkyPuncher 4y ago

Lane keep is not the same as lane centering. I have a 2020 Palisade with lane centering. It works incredibly well. I've driven through Chicago highways with only management for lane changes. I literally will not buy a car without lane centering after having this car.

CyanBird 4y ago
> Lane keep is not the same as lane centering These are God awful naming schemes, completely misleading for the common consumer and bizantine in naming. Near purposefully misleading
- SkyPuncher 4y ago
  I think it was a bit of organic confusion. The challenge is they all do very, very similar things. It's just to what degree. It does seem they starting to standardize the naming.
- Tempest1981 4y ago
  Summary of the 3 different types (LKA, LCA, and LDW), and what each manufacturer called them last year: - https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/lane-departure-warning-lane-keeping-assist-guide-a7087080070/ https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/lane-departure-wa... The US NHTSA specifies the names here: - L*A: https://www.nhtsa.gov/equipment/driver-assistance-technologies#driving-control-assistance-30676 https://www.nhtsa.gov/equipment/driver-assistance-technologi... - LDW: https://www.nhtsa.gov/equipment/driver-assistance-technologies#collision-warning-30631 https://www.nhtsa.gov/equipment/driver-assistance-technologi... W = Warning, A = Assist (Curious what names are used outside the US)