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One thing that he mentions in the video is the fact that Facebook Like buttons are everywhere. They can track many of the sites you visit.

tezza 15y ago
A simple grep of your HN comment history shows equivalents to 'Like' http://www.webmasterkb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/javascript/35764/For-all-those-jQuery-fanboys https://github.com/derwiki/redirect_tracker http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ltwatch/id482807766 http://angularjs.org/ https://github.com/ludicast/angular-peepcode-todo etc. How is Facebook worse than this??
- arrogant 15y ago
  I think the point is that the simple presence of a Like button tells Facebook that you've been there. You don't have to click it, you just have to load it. HN comment history is active participation.
  - tezza 15y ago
    Ok, so I see the point that the websites you visit invite Facebook tracking onto their pages. But one can trivially block these autoinclusions. --------- http://webgraph.com/resources/facebookblocker/ http://webgraph.com/resources/facebookblocker/ -- My work's firewall directs Facebook.com and Twitter.com to /dev/null . This stops all such tracking. Individuals could do their own blacklist via Greasemonkey / Charles proxy equivalent.
    - HalibetLector 15y ago
      And that's exactly what some of us do. But there's no way you're getting all of your facebook friends to do the same. Facebook can build a profile on you based on your friend's tracking data. Whether it'll be accurate or not is mostly a technical question - whoever looks at it will assume it's accurate. There are a lot of nefarious uses for this information and there's no useful way to opt out right now, short of not having created a facebook account. Hence the whole "mass surveillance" bit.
      - tezza 15y ago
        The leakage of information by friends is a problem. But it is not a problem owned and invented by Facebook, it is any network.
tezza 15y ago
A google for "firefox facebook blocker" returned: http://webgraph.com/resources/facebookblocker/ http://webgraph.com/resources/facebookblocker/

tezza 15y ago

A simple grep of your HN comment history shows equivalents to 'Like' http://www.webmasterkb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/javascript/35764/For-all-those-jQuery-fanboys https://github.com/derwiki/redirect_tracker http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ltwatch/id482807766 http://angularjs.org/ https://github.com/ludicast/angular-peepcode-todo etc. How is Facebook worse than this??

arrogant 15y ago
I think the point is that the simple presence of a Like button tells Facebook that you've been there. You don't have to click it, you just have to load it. HN comment history is active participation.
- tezza 15y ago
  Ok, so I see the point that the websites you visit invite Facebook tracking onto their pages. But one can trivially block these autoinclusions. --------- http://webgraph.com/resources/facebookblocker/ http://webgraph.com/resources/facebookblocker/ -- My work's firewall directs Facebook.com and Twitter.com to /dev/null . This stops all such tracking. Individuals could do their own blacklist via Greasemonkey / Charles proxy equivalent.
  - HalibetLector 15y ago
    And that's exactly what some of us do. But there's no way you're getting all of your facebook friends to do the same. Facebook can build a profile on you based on your friend's tracking data. Whether it'll be accurate or not is mostly a technical question - whoever looks at it will assume it's accurate. There are a lot of nefarious uses for this information and there's no useful way to opt out right now, short of not having created a facebook account. Hence the whole "mass surveillance" bit.
    - tezza 15y ago
      The leakage of information by friends is a problem. But it is not a problem owned and invented by Facebook, it is any network.

tezza 15y ago

A google for "firefox facebook blocker" returned: http://webgraph.com/resources/facebookblocker/ http://webgraph.com/resources/facebookblocker/