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For the exact opposite road experience visit Iceland.

hadlock 4y ago
I was pleasantly surprised by the roads in Malaysia. We were doing the equivalent of 80MPH on the main N-S road between Kuala Lumpur and Penang and dudes would blow past us in a Toyota Hi-Ace minivan doing 100MPH. Some of the best roads I've ever driven on, even better than the roads in Texas. Heading up into the mountains to see the tea plantations, even the secondary roads were at least two lanes and well marked, but well maintained, even if it was impossible to pass slow-moving trucks.
- heywhatupboys 4y ago
  > even better than the roads in Texas fun fact: the US has terrible roads (in a Western sense) too
  - hnav 4y ago
    the US is more comparable to a continent or part of the world than a country in terms of variety of roads you get
  - alfalfasprout 4y ago
    In general this isn't true though. Especially not when you consider the massive geography.
  - hadlock 4y ago
    The roads in the northeast are awful. It hardly ever freezes in Texas and almost never is the frost line more than an inch deep so many roads go decades between needing repair or rebuild. Bad roads exist but I specified Texas for a reason
pmontra 4y ago
Oh well, I remember dirt roads and river crossings. Of course not inside Reykjavik but some sections of the ring road around the island were unpaved in 2004. Not a big deal. Ah, and twisted winding roads across lava fields (cold ones.) That vacation was great.
lastofthemojito 4y ago
But if you think Costa Rica is expensive, prices in Iceland will surely offend.
fwlr 4y ago
As an Australian who visited Iceland and drove a lot there, I was very impressed with Iceland’s roads. They face some similar challenges to Australia: geographic distribution requires a lot of road for not many people. (https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Transport/Highways/Total/Per-capita https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Transport/Hi... Iceland has ~45km of highway per 1k people, Australia has ~43km of highway per 1k. Canada is the only other country above 40km/1k people. America is representative of the top 10% at 16th with ~23km/1k, 80% of countries have less than 10km/1k, and 50% of countries have less than 5km/1k. The bottom extreme of 1km/1k or less is also interesting - you see expected places like Singapore and Hong Kong but also oddities like Egypt and China. I would be curious to get reports from Canadians and Estonians on their opinions of their country’s roads.) Of course, Iceland has added constraints of deep freeze / unfreeze cycle and heavy snowfall. They performed admirably well. I particularly enjoyed their solution to the river crossing issue - Iceland has a ‘ring road’ that aims to connect essentially the entire country, and this road has to cross many rivers. Like, SO many rivers, it feels like once every dozen kilometers or something. Their efficient solution was one-lane bridges - sometimes you have to wait for oncoming traffic to vacate the bridge before you can cross.
- monkeywork 4y ago
  >I would be curious to get reports from Canadians and Estonians on their opinions of their country’s roads Canadian checking in. Having driven all over the eastern half our country and a few places in the western half as well as much of the eastern half of America I much prefer Canada's. Small things like how quickly it seems roadkill is cleaned up here as opposed to America. There are still many places where we do not have divided highway and it's just a single lane in each direction but that is slowly and steadily being changed out to a divided 2/3 lanes in each direction setup. There is construction and maintence delays (looking at you quebec) but overall things work pretty well. Counter that to places in America (looking at you Michigan) where driving can feel like it's going to shake the nuts off your car, and then you cross a border into say Ohio and everything is back to normal :)
  - TMWNN 4y ago

I was pleasantly surprised by the roads in Malaysia. We were doing the equivalent of 80MPH on the main N-S road between Kuala Lumpur and Penang and dudes would blow past us in a Toyota Hi-Ace minivan doing 100MPH. Some of the best roads I've ever driven on, even better than the roads in Texas. Heading up into the mountains to see the tea plantations, even the secondary roads were at least two lanes and well marked, but well maintained, even if it was impossible to pass slow-moving trucks.

heywhatupboys 4y ago
> even better than the roads in Texas fun fact: the US has terrible roads (in a Western sense) too
- hnav 4y ago
  the US is more comparable to a continent or part of the world than a country in terms of variety of roads you get
- alfalfasprout 4y ago
  In general this isn't true though. Especially not when you consider the massive geography.
- hadlock 4y ago
  The roads in the northeast are awful. It hardly ever freezes in Texas and almost never is the frost line more than an inch deep so many roads go decades between needing repair or rebuild. Bad roads exist but I specified Texas for a reason

pmontra 4y ago

Oh well, I remember dirt roads and river crossings. Of course not inside Reykjavik but some sections of the ring road around the island were unpaved in 2004. Not a big deal. Ah, and twisted winding roads across lava fields (cold ones.) That vacation was great.

lastofthemojito 4y ago

But if you think Costa Rica is expensive, prices in Iceland will surely offend.

fwlr 4y ago

As an Australian who visited Iceland and drove a lot there, I was very impressed with Iceland’s roads. They face some similar challenges to Australia: geographic distribution requires a lot of road for not many people. (https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Transport/Highways/Total/Per-capita https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Transport/Hi... Iceland has ~45km of highway per 1k people, Australia has ~43km of highway per 1k. Canada is the only other country above 40km/1k people. America is representative of the top 10% at 16th with ~23km/1k, 80% of countries have less than 10km/1k, and 50% of countries have less than 5km/1k. The bottom extreme of 1km/1k or less is also interesting - you see expected places like Singapore and Hong Kong but also oddities like Egypt and China. I would be curious to get reports from Canadians and Estonians on their opinions of their country’s roads.) Of course, Iceland has added constraints of deep freeze / unfreeze cycle and heavy snowfall. They performed admirably well. I particularly enjoyed their solution to the river crossing issue - Iceland has a ‘ring road’ that aims to connect essentially the entire country, and this road has to cross many rivers. Like, SO many rivers, it feels like once every dozen kilometers or something. Their efficient solution was one-lane bridges - sometimes you have to wait for oncoming traffic to vacate the bridge before you can cross.

monkeywork 4y ago
>I would be curious to get reports from Canadians and Estonians on their opinions of their country’s roads Canadian checking in. Having driven all over the eastern half our country and a few places in the western half as well as much of the eastern half of America I much prefer Canada's. Small things like how quickly it seems roadkill is cleaned up here as opposed to America. There are still many places where we do not have divided highway and it's just a single lane in each direction but that is slowly and steadily being changed out to a divided 2/3 lanes in each direction setup. There is construction and maintence delays (looking at you quebec) but overall things work pretty well. Counter that to places in America (looking at you Michigan) where driving can feel like it's going to shake the nuts off your car, and then you cross a border into say Ohio and everything is back to normal :)
- TMWNN 4y ago