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If the sharp rise since 2012 in female teenage depression in USA is caused by social media. Why isn't the same sharp rise seen in Europe, where female teenagers

by expazl 4y ago

If the sharp rise since 2012 in female teenage depression in USA is caused by social media. Why isn't the same sharp rise seen in Europe, where female teenagers also use social media?

einherjae 4y ago
Kinder Eggs and/or lower legal drinking age? I was about to just make that joke, then realized that actually social media might be worse than alcohol…
joenot443 4y ago
Suicide rates amongst female European teenagers are rising as well. I'd encourage you to consult the literature before making assertions like that. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00431-021-04240-7 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00431-021-04240-7
- expazl 4y ago
  I had consulted the literature, though I'll take note of bringing along the references. I admit that I am only looking at my own small corner of the world, Denmark. But still, It seems odd to me that our country would for some reason be immune to the evils of social media if that is indeed the root cause of these rises. For references: Stable suicide attempt rates in the period: https://psykiatrifonden.dk/files/styles/common_04/public/media/image/figur1_tema_selvmord_antalselvmord_DK_statistik.JPG https://psykiatrifonden.dk/files/styles/common_04/public/med... Mænd=Men, Kvinder=Woman, I Alt= Total And falling suicide attempt rates over the same period: https://psykiatrifonden.dk/files/styles/common_04/public/media/image/figur2_tema_selvmord_antalselvmordsforsoeg_DK_statistik.JPG https://psykiatrifonden.dk/files/styles/common_04/public/med... Statistics are from the Danish Psychiatry foundation.
- expazl 4y ago
  I'd encourage you to consult the literature you link before making assertions like that. If you review the article you linked you'll see that female suicide in Sweden is actually lower in 2018 than it was in 2009. So it' doesn't match the same rise since 2012 seen in America. https://media.springernature.com/lw685/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1007%2Fs00431-021-04240-7/MediaObjects/431_2021_4240_Fig3_HTML.png?as=webp https://media.springernature.com/lw685/springer-static/image... And sure you can fit an overall rise across all the years, but it's clear from inspecting the curve that this is not a strong correlation, and in fact if you remove the years prior to 2008 that should be irrelevant for the changes due to social media since 2012, then there is no upwards trend. So what is actually seen is likely better explained by relation to the general economic prosperity prior to 2008 and downturn after than anything related to social media.

by expazl 4y ago

If the sharp rise since 2012 in female teenage depression in USA is caused by social media. Why isn't the same sharp rise seen in Europe, where female teenagers also use social media?

einherjae 4y ago

Kinder Eggs and/or lower legal drinking age? I was about to just make that joke, then realized that actually social media might be worse than alcohol…

joenot443 4y ago

Suicide rates amongst female European teenagers are rising as well. I'd encourage you to consult the literature before making assertions like that. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00431-021-04240-7 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00431-021-04240-7

expazl 4y ago
I had consulted the literature, though I'll take note of bringing along the references. I admit that I am only looking at my own small corner of the world, Denmark. But still, It seems odd to me that our country would for some reason be immune to the evils of social media if that is indeed the root cause of these rises. For references: Stable suicide attempt rates in the period: https://psykiatrifonden.dk/files/styles/common_04/public/media/image/figur1_tema_selvmord_antalselvmord_DK_statistik.JPG https://psykiatrifonden.dk/files/styles/common_04/public/med... Mænd=Men, Kvinder=Woman, I Alt= Total And falling suicide attempt rates over the same period: https://psykiatrifonden.dk/files/styles/common_04/public/media/image/figur2_tema_selvmord_antalselvmordsforsoeg_DK_statistik.JPG https://psykiatrifonden.dk/files/styles/common_04/public/med... Statistics are from the Danish Psychiatry foundation.
expazl 4y ago
I'd encourage you to consult the literature you link before making assertions like that. If you review the article you linked you'll see that female suicide in Sweden is actually lower in 2018 than it was in 2009. So it' doesn't match the same rise since 2012 seen in America. https://media.springernature.com/lw685/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1007%2Fs00431-021-04240-7/MediaObjects/431_2021_4240_Fig3_HTML.png?as=webp https://media.springernature.com/lw685/springer-static/image... And sure you can fit an overall rise across all the years, but it's clear from inspecting the curve that this is not a strong correlation, and in fact if you remove the years prior to 2008 that should be irrelevant for the changes due to social media since 2012, then there is no upwards trend. So what is actually seen is likely better explained by relation to the general economic prosperity prior to 2008 and downturn after than anything related to social media.