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Quite a strong statement to make, not one that I know enough about to argue either way. Do you have any references you could link to to back up your statement?

Quite a strong statement to make, not one that I know enough about to argue either way. Do you have any references you could link to to back up your statement? I’m genuinely curious what you’re referencing.

t344344 4y ago
Lets just say EU is not very family friendly compared to individual states. I do not think this discussion belongs on HN. Just pointing BS in this law.
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- flangola7 4y ago
  Isn't the EU just a sum of the states' desires?
  - shjake 4y ago
    Not really. They are usually a sum of some clique of useful idiot/lobbyists and somewhat competent busybody career bureaucrat desires.
  - germandiago 4y ago
    No. It is an agenda imposed on all EU citizens without direct representation. It goes top-down instead of bottom-up unfortunately and that is why there are so many fights. It is also increasingly invasive even of the sovereignity of constitutions of individual countries.
irusensei 4y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_swimming_pool_rape https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_swimming_pool_rape > On 2 December 2015, at the Theresienbad swimming pool in the Austrian capital Vienna, a 10-year-old boy was raped. > The perpetrator, ..., claimed that he was motivated by not having sex for four months > In October 2016, the Austrian Supreme Court overturned the man's conviction of rape, ordering a retrial, while upholding his second charge of aggravated sexual assault of a minor. The rationale was that the prosecution had not provided evidence that the man did not know that his victim did not consent > In May 2017, judge Thomas Philipp reduced the sentence to four years in a final decision by the Supreme Court, saying that the rape was a "one-off incident" and "you cannot lose your sense of proportion here" Serious clown world material here.
- jll29 4y ago
  This is shocking and disgusting, but should not be taken as a motive to spy on everyone. Spying on everyone implies general assumption of guilt covering the whole population, which is unlawful in most jurisdictions (proportionality) and also unconstitutional in many (e.g. Germany).
  - irusensei 4y ago
    Agreed.

t344344 4y ago

Lets just say EU is not very family friendly compared to individual states. I do not think this discussion belongs on HN. Just pointing BS in this law.

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flangola7 4y ago
Isn't the EU just a sum of the states' desires?
- shjake 4y ago
  Not really. They are usually a sum of some clique of useful idiot/lobbyists and somewhat competent busybody career bureaucrat desires.
- germandiago 4y ago
  No. It is an agenda imposed on all EU citizens without direct representation. It goes top-down instead of bottom-up unfortunately and that is why there are so many fights. It is also increasingly invasive even of the sovereignity of constitutions of individual countries.

irusensei 4y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_swimming_pool_rape https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_swimming_pool_rape > On 2 December 2015, at the Theresienbad swimming pool in the Austrian capital Vienna, a 10-year-old boy was raped. > The perpetrator, ..., claimed that he was motivated by not having sex for four months > In October 2016, the Austrian Supreme Court overturned the man's conviction of rape, ordering a retrial, while upholding his second charge of aggravated sexual assault of a minor. The rationale was that the prosecution had not provided evidence that the man did not know that his victim did not consent > In May 2017, judge Thomas Philipp reduced the sentence to four years in a final decision by the Supreme Court, saying that the rape was a "one-off incident" and "you cannot lose your sense of proportion here" Serious clown world material here.

jll29 4y ago
This is shocking and disgusting, but should not be taken as a motive to spy on everyone. Spying on everyone implies general assumption of guilt covering the whole population, which is unlawful in most jurisdictions (proportionality) and also unconstitutional in many (e.g. Germany).
- irusensei 4y ago
  Agreed.