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I suppose we can all keep posting "I'm right", "No, I'm right"! I believe people have in fact been routinely living in groups of far more than 30 people for te

I suppose we can all keep posting "I'm right", "No, I'm right"! I believe people have in fact been routinely living in groups of far more than 30 people for tens of thousands of years (in some but not all places/times over that span, sure), it's a misconception to think this is new or unusual for humans. We have not only done fine with it, we have thrived with it. (Also having relationships over distance too, for a long long time).

idiotsecant 4y ago
I think if you re-read my post we're saying the same thing.
ye-olde-sysrq 4y ago
Have we thrived, though? If we're talking about monkey brains and evolution, we need to keep in mind that all of the stuff we're talking about is even only a tiny fraction of the time that humans have been anatomically modern (300000 to 100000 years ago depending on exactly how modern you mean, with the 100k years ago mark being where an autopsy wouldn't be able to tell the difference unless it were specifically trying to date the corpse based on things like carbon13 or noting the dental care etc). So all things considered, I don't think we can really say that we've proved out that the stuff we've been up to since the dawn of agriculture (10k years ago) is going to stand the test of time. Maybe let's at least see where global warming goes over the next 100-200 years before we start throwing around words like "thrive".
lm28469 4y ago
> I believe people have in fact been routinely living in groups of far more than 30 people for tens of thousands of years Ok but could they follow 500 influencers, watch people die everyday, get the ever up to date flow of new disease, earthquakes, terrorists attack fed 24/7, compare themselves to the best of the best, see the worst of the worst, &c. ? For people who lived/grew up before the 90s/2000s it is very obvious that things changed in a massive way extremely quickly, a lot due to internet but eve more due to pocket computers. I think you're massively underestimating the scale of the issue. People don't thrive on social medias interactions, they're addicted to them, depending on the survey/study you look at it's anywhere from 4 to 9 hours per day on average.
- ameister14 4y ago
  >watch people die everyday Maybe not every day, but death was a lot closer to people for everything up to the last hundred years or so. Look at child and maternal death rates.
  - oblio 4y ago
    Even so, you're talking about 1 tragic event every 6 months at most, on average (except for wartime). Not a slew of garbage about 10000 tragic events happening each day.
- throwaway2037 4y ago
  "People don't thrive on social medias interactions, they're addicted to them." This is a choice phrase. Well said.

idiotsecant 4y ago

I think if you re-read my post we're saying the same thing.

ye-olde-sysrq 4y ago

Have we thrived, though? If we're talking about monkey brains and evolution, we need to keep in mind that all of the stuff we're talking about is even only a tiny fraction of the time that humans have been anatomically modern (300000 to 100000 years ago depending on exactly how modern you mean, with the 100k years ago mark being where an autopsy wouldn't be able to tell the difference unless it were specifically trying to date the corpse based on things like carbon13 or noting the dental care etc). So all things considered, I don't think we can really say that we've proved out that the stuff we've been up to since the dawn of agriculture (10k years ago) is going to stand the test of time. Maybe let's at least see where global warming goes over the next 100-200 years before we start throwing around words like "thrive".

lm28469 4y ago

> I believe people have in fact been routinely living in groups of far more than 30 people for tens of thousands of years Ok but could they follow 500 influencers, watch people die everyday, get the ever up to date flow of new disease, earthquakes, terrorists attack fed 24/7, compare themselves to the best of the best, see the worst of the worst, &c. ? For people who lived/grew up before the 90s/2000s it is very obvious that things changed in a massive way extremely quickly, a lot due to internet but eve more due to pocket computers. I think you're massively underestimating the scale of the issue. People don't thrive on social medias interactions, they're addicted to them, depending on the survey/study you look at it's anywhere from 4 to 9 hours per day on average.

ameister14 4y ago
>watch people die everyday Maybe not every day, but death was a lot closer to people for everything up to the last hundred years or so. Look at child and maternal death rates.
- oblio 4y ago
  Even so, you're talking about 1 tragic event every 6 months at most, on average (except for wartime). Not a slew of garbage about 10000 tragic events happening each day.
throwaway2037 4y ago
"People don't thrive on social medias interactions, they're addicted to them." This is a choice phrase. Well said.