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>it is actually going to make things worse, that's what regulation does in most cases. Yes all those regulations that actually make things worse. Which ones a
by idiotsecant 4y ago
>it is actually going to make things worse, that's what regulation does in most cases.
Yes all those regulations that actually make things worse.
Which ones are those again? specifically?
I find that generally people who make hand-wavey boogeyman 'regulation is bad' arguments typically struggle to identify which regulations are bad and why, and conveniently forget about the thousands of regulations that make their life livable every day.
- fnordpiglet 4y agoPlease accept all cookies to receive your response.
- dangus 4y agoCookie regulation is great. If you block the cookie message elements, the websites have to default to necessary cookies only. Before the regulation, sites would do whatever they wanted if your browser settings weren't set up perfectly.
- fnordpiglet 4y agoOr you could have turned off cookies entirely or per site in your browser since 1996, and not depend on the goodwill and compliance of an advertising company. But as has been demonstrated there are a bazillion ways to track you even with cookies blocked that you have no control over nor are covered by this spam pop up inducing bit of transnational bureaucracy.
- mort96 4y agoI agree with your criticism of the companies who time and time again decide to utterly destroy their user experience just so that they can spy on people. They should avoid that. But you didn't respond to the regulations thing.
- baby 4y agoIt made browsing the web an inferior experience for all users. Come on. Let’s not continue this charade and just accept a valid argument when you see one
- mort96 4y agoI agree. These companies are making the web a worse experience for all users. I wish they would stop. At the very least I get the option to not be tracked on those shitty websites, but I would really, really have preferred if they didn't make me go through all those intentionally confusing and probably illegal steps to opt out of tracking.
- hellojesus 4y agoYou always have the option to turn off cookies. There is literally 0 check you have as a user to ensure a company isn't nefariously using cookies despite your preferences. All the law did was force trash pop-ups everywhere.
- mort96 4y agoI don't want to turn off cookies, I want to be able to log in to things. And the cookie technology isn't the problem, tracking is; if the tracking happens locally using localstorage instead of cookies, I haven't gained anything. The law didn't force pop-ups anywhere. Some companies chose to put pop-ups on their websites.
- hellojesus 4y agoTracking happens everywhere you take your phone. Bluetooth beacons, apps grabbing data, etc. The laws don't stop it. They just force it to change shape. It can be stopped by careful consumption.
- mort96 4y ago
- afiori 4y agoI think that I will decline those, I hope that the response wasn't too important
- idiotsecant 4y agoI have to admit this is a clever response but it's also an example of a meaningful regulation that corporations are trying to work around. They are annoying on purpose. The law doesn't say to make an annoying popup, only that you can't do user hostile things with cookies.
- fnordpiglet 4y agoBut surely everyone knows that companies will absolutely comply in the most minimal way possible to any regulation and will actively seek loopholes. Their incentive is profit, not egalitarian utopia. We may wish the universe were different, but it’s not. It’s like wishing the sun won’t expand and consume the planet some day out of respect for life.
- h1fra 4y agoThis is not the take you think it is. The regulation was there to prevent companies from abusing cookies, banner is just a side-effect of companies not willing to respect privacy.
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- fnordpiglet 4y agoOk, so how is it effective again? It’s 2023. You don’t need cookies like you did in 1996 to totally shit on everyone’s privacy, by the way.
- prmoustache 4y agoIt is effective for me to know which website owner is an asshole.
- baby 4y agoThe ones that created cookie popups everywhere. It’s horrible. It’s the worst. Everyone can see how horrible it is. Nobody understands why this is still a thing.
- kcartlidge 4y agoThe regulations never mandated cookie popups. Companies who decided to continue their invasive policies chose to implement those popups to provide legal cover. Non-invasive companies don't need to do that. The issue is with the companies, not the regulation.
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- int_19h 4y agoThe issue is with both. It is not exactly surprising that for-profit companies implement the regulation in a way that minimizes their expenses, and the outcome this produces could have been anticipated when the legislation was written. The outcome matters more than the intent.