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I am wondering, who in the EU commission is exactly pushing for this, and why?
by auggierose 4y ago
I am wondering, who in the EU commission is exactly pushing for this, and why?
- belter 4y agoAshton Kutcher, Demi Moore... "European Security Officials Double Down on Automated Moderation and Client-Side Scanning" - https://www.lawfareblog.com/european-security-officials-double-down-automated-moderation-and-client-side-scanning https://www.lawfareblog.com/european-security-officials-doub...
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- dvngnt_ 4y agofollow the money
- Kognito 4y agoWasn’t sure if you were being serious but sure enough: “Thorn, a U.S. 501(c) (3) organization founded by Hollywood star-turned venture capitalist Ashton Kutcher and his former partner Demi Moore, has been a central force lobbying for the legislation.”
- ClumsyPilot 4y agowhat the fuck? are they front men? For whom?
- jai_ 4y agoAshton Kutcher and Demi Moore have been campaigning to address child sexual exploitation for a while. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_(organization) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_(organization) I would guess they are simplying sponsoring this legislation sincerly without understanding the privacy ramifications if it passed.
- belter 4y agoProblem is Ashton Kutcher in real life, always seems to play the role of the useful fool: https://www.cnbc.com/video/2019/01/14/watch-cnbcs-full-interview-with-ashton-kutcher-and-wework-ceo-adam-neumann.html https://www.cnbc.com/video/2019/01/14/watch-cnbcs-full-inter...
- slackdog 4y agoMy guess is that the actors are actors, being paid to represent the interests of others who don't care to be famous themselves.
- wewxjfq 4y agoThe initial link claims they are lobbying for client-side scanning while they are offering a commercial product for client-side scanning.
- jonnybgood 4y agoWhat commercial product are they offering?
- whstl 4y agoAccording to this article, it seems they want to sell it directly to chat applications. "There's a company called Thorn that is lobbying for the scanning contract and would love to get a government mandate for its software to be installed into your chat clients," he said. Apparently Apple didn't want to pay and developed their own in-house, only to scrap it after complaints from the public. https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/13/clientside_scanning_csam_anderson/ https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/13/clientside_scanning_c...
- unity1001 4y agoWow this is literally textbook crap.
- trompetenaccoun 4y agoHe is a professional actor - so there's that. On a more serious note though I'd also like to know. I never paid attention what Hollywood actors do in their spare time, but it's well known around the world that there are politicians and lobby groups pushing for authoritarian measures under the guise of doing it "to protect the children".
- wkat4242 4y agoWeird. I thought you were joking but you're not. What do some second-rate American actors have to do with EU Digital policy? They have no tech knowledge and they aren't even European.
- krona 4y agoInfluence peddling in the EU is a feature, not a bug.
- Gustomaximus 4y agoKutcher works with Thorn to help reduce peodophilia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_(organization) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_(organization)
- jll29 4y agoThese people perhaps have hidden financial motives (e.g. share holdings in scanning software companies), or they lack the technical expertise to judge the impact, and they may actually think what they want to do is a good idea. In any case, they must be stopped at all cost. Freedom is priceless in the literal sense of the word, or people would not be willing to die for it. Germany has a historic responsibility (after two totalitarian regimes that spied on its cities in its past), which thankfully means a substantial part of the population was educated in school enough about the dangers that they would not support any party who let that kind of nonsense creep in, probably even regardless of which party is in power.
- throwaway8689 4y agoSimpler financial motive: residual payments on their old movies.
- thg 4y ago> Germany has a historic responsibility (after two totalitarian regimes that spied on its cities in its past), which thankfully means a substantial part of the population was educated in school enough about the dangers that they would not support any party who let that kind of nonsense creep in, probably even regardless of which party is in power. I wish it were so, but alas no. We have strong historic privacy laws, data protection authorities with teeth and a working court system constantly overturning new anti-privacy laws. Most of us Germans simply do neither care about privacy nor understand why "it all has to be so hard". The parties most people here vote for are also the parties that constantly enact laws eroding our privacy, only to then have them overturned by the courts. If not for those safeguards, Germany would again be on its best way on turning into an authoritarian police state again. The only reason Germany is opposing this right now is that we currently have both the Liberals and the Greens in the government coalition. The Social Democrats (SPD) would have just winked it through and the Christian Democrats (CDU/CSU) would have fiercely supported it.
- lock-the-spock 4y agoI think the issue here is more that the legal text could be interpreted as going quite far, even if this was not necessarily intended. Here the proposal , scroll down to 'Article 1' for content. https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=COM%3A2022%3A209%3AFIN https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=COM%3A20...
- 0xDEF 4y agoNeurotic Americans who claim they are fighting against "child pornography". I am not kidding. Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore are involved.