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This trues up with what I'm anecdotally seeing in my clients. RTO-3 days or even RTO-5 days is being pushed aggressively in some of them, and the general feelin
by yourapostasy 4y ago
This trues up with what I'm anecdotally seeing in my clients. RTO-3 days or even RTO-5 days is being pushed aggressively in some of them, and the general feeling amongst their rank and file is it is a stealth layoff (no severance for those leaving due to the policy switch is a big financial incentive for the companies). A big challenge I'm not seeing really addressed though is a lot of staff at my clients stepped up big time to do more with less during the pandemic and put in more than full time hours, reasoning that they'll just work during what normally would have been their commute time. That slack their companies enjoyed is now being yanked out of the ecosystem as many simply don't have more to give once they start commuting again. Quite a few put in even put in way more.
I saw this organically happen both pre- and post-pandemic. Pre-pandemic, it was rare if a Slack or email I sent to client staff was answered off hours. During the latter half of the pandemic and post-pandemic with those in WFH situations, it became much more common as staff learned to communicate all the time during brief idling periods while going about their off hours days and evenings. I'm going to miss this low-latency communication, but it is what it is.
If this is an actual secular trend instead of mere n=1 anecdata, then it will stack on the demographic trend baked in of ever-fewer workers for the next 20-odd years (assuming there is a baby boom in the next 3-4 years, which by current family and household formation statistical trends is still looking unlikely).
- livinglist 4y agoI’m fully remote atm and checks slack when I’m off work all the time. If I were to commute 50 mins each way, I wouldn’t be looking at slack after work for sure, hell even 10min commute will make me dislike my job, just thinking of having to get up early to walk my dog..
- Firmwarrior 4y agoyeah, I have a 10 minute commute right now, and I hate it I have to walk all the way across the building to a phone room every time I need to make a phone call, and the rooms are usually all full. Which means I have to hide in the mail room or walk a couple of blocks out to my car. The office is full of minor annoyances like broken elevators, full bathrooms, no coffee creamer, etc. It's super obnoxious. I'm trying not to be a spoiled /r/antiwork jerkbag here, but I really hate this job, haha.
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 4y agoHow are the big companies going to justify any effort they put against climate change? Sounds stupid but forced return to office will also do enormous damage to the environment
- yourapostasy 4y ago> How are the big companies going to justify any effort they put against climate change? Watch what they do, not what they say, I guess. Maybe it's mostly greenwashing? The pandemic lockdowns were probably as close as we're ever going to get to observing how much a drastically reduced transport-intensive footprint is capable of helping the environment. If a lot of tension arises out of increasing RTO and shrinking labor pools, it will be interesting to watch how it resolves out.
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- outside1234 4y agoThey will just put out more PR. Probably write it on the way to Davos in their private jet for the climate conference they'll issue it at.