Context: I saw the other post (Objects have failed, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34995359 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34995359) and just so ha

Context: I saw the other post (Objects have failed, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34995359 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34995359) and just so happen to know that these two are connected, they were the two starting positions of a panel discussion. Presenting one without the other seemed...incomplete. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34996888 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34996888