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How in the world is a disease that we have a vaccine for still the 3rd leading cause of death?

by ed25519FUUU 4y ago

peteradio 4y ago
Its probably not and OP is misquoting.
- azernik 4y ago
  It is absolutely true. COVID isn't the army-crippling societal disaster it was in 2020, but it's still a really really nasty virus. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm
myth_drannon 4y ago
Stupidity is a human condition that is more dangerous than cancer.
azernik 4y ago
Because COVID is insanely contagious. The non-specific measures we took (social distancing, masking, &c) absolutely crushed the flu, but only maintained partial control over COVID spread pre-vaccine.
- nostromo123 4y ago
  I don't know about "insanely contagious". In my small company we are cca 25 people and we have very cramped quarters. However, it has been more than once that some colleagues have had covid but nobody else was infected, despite being in meetings with the sick guys. You can get lucky, but not this lucky with something that's really contagious.
  - taeric 4y ago
    I have had a hard time squaring how contagious it is by external evidence, with how non contagious it is within family units. I finally started seeing families where it would hit everyone in the family, but there are tons of examples of it not spreading to everyone. Which is practically unheard of for this style of virus. This is particularly pronounced when it comes to kid sicknesses. For the most part, you can just ask if other kids are getting sick to know if your is about to. Covid? We literally carpooled with families and did not catch it from them. Just, how?
seren 4y ago
This is harder to catch a cancer or heart disease from someone else, vaccinated or not.
taeric 4y ago
This is a touch naive, though. How is heart disease so high on the list? After all, we are "convinced" it is poor diet and exercise. There is some irony that it may be much of the really poor aspect of our diets came from health programs of the last century that were grossly miss targeted. Of course, the frustration there is it was not some nefarious push by folks. We just got it wrong. Back to covid, I share the incredulity in how the deaths are driven largely by unvaccinated numbers. Even crazier when you see stories like https://www.npr.org/2022/01/12/1072411820/law-enforcement-deaths-2021-covid https://www.npr.org/2022/01/12/1072411820/law-enforcement-de..., where the very groups that are seeing rises in deaths pushing back against vaccines. Truly mind numbing.

How in the world is a disease that we have a vaccine for still the 3rd leading cause of death?

peteradio 4y ago

Its probably not and OP is misquoting.

azernik 4y ago
It is absolutely true. COVID isn't the army-crippling societal disaster it was in 2020, but it's still a really really nasty virus. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm

myth_drannon 4y ago

Stupidity is a human condition that is more dangerous than cancer.

azernik 4y ago

Because COVID is insanely contagious. The non-specific measures we took (social distancing, masking, &c) absolutely crushed the flu, but only maintained partial control over COVID spread pre-vaccine.

nostromo123 4y ago
I don't know about "insanely contagious". In my small company we are cca 25 people and we have very cramped quarters. However, it has been more than once that some colleagues have had covid but nobody else was infected, despite being in meetings with the sick guys. You can get lucky, but not this lucky with something that's really contagious.
- taeric 4y ago
  I have had a hard time squaring how contagious it is by external evidence, with how non contagious it is within family units. I finally started seeing families where it would hit everyone in the family, but there are tons of examples of it not spreading to everyone. Which is practically unheard of for this style of virus. This is particularly pronounced when it comes to kid sicknesses. For the most part, you can just ask if other kids are getting sick to know if your is about to. Covid? We literally carpooled with families and did not catch it from them. Just, how?

seren 4y ago

This is harder to catch a cancer or heart disease from someone else, vaccinated or not.

taeric 4y ago

This is a touch naive, though. How is heart disease so high on the list? After all, we are "convinced" it is poor diet and exercise. There is some irony that it may be much of the really poor aspect of our diets came from health programs of the last century that were grossly miss targeted. Of course, the frustration there is it was not some nefarious push by folks. We just got it wrong. Back to covid, I share the incredulity in how the deaths are driven largely by unvaccinated numbers. Even crazier when you see stories like https://www.npr.org/2022/01/12/1072411820/law-enforcement-deaths-2021-covid https://www.npr.org/2022/01/12/1072411820/law-enforcement-de..., where the very groups that are seeing rises in deaths pushing back against vaccines. Truly mind numbing.