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That's absurd. Having to work to earn a living is not the same as slavery. If you don't think there are enough good jobs where you live then you should be agita

That's absurd. Having to work to earn a living is not the same as slavery. If you don't think there are enough good jobs where you live then you should be agitating for onshoring and more investment in local manufacturing and production. Fundamental wealth in a society comes from producing and improving physical things that make our lives better.

marginalia_nu 4y ago
Depends entirely on what sort of job you have. Wage slavery is definitely a thing. Living paycheck to paycheck, barely being able to afford food and rent, with no real options is materially indistinguishable from slavery. Nobody wants to do these jobs. They're doing them because they're given no other option.
- throwaway4aday 4y ago
  That's due to a lack of competition among employers. Corporations have been given too much leeway and should be restricted in their reach and forcibly broken up. International corporations should be banned in both directions. If you fix the economy so that it's not possible for companies to commit arbitrage resulting in money both flowing out of the country as well as concentrating at the top then economic mobility would be achievable by all who were willing to put the effort in.
  - marginalia_nu 4y ago
    Can this be demonstrated true? Where has this fix been tried to success? Where is this capitalist utopia where nobody dreads going to work.
    - throwaway4aday 4y ago
      There will always be discontents but just looking back over the history of most Western nations will give you pretty striking examples of success before various forces of corruption took hold. We currently live in a utopia when compared to our collective past, it could be much better but that doesn't mean we're not far up the slope of progress.
  - Llamamoe 4y ago
    As long as we live in a system where the rich intrinsically have more power and the incentive to use it to squeeze more wealth out of others, this will be at best playing whack-a-mole and at worst a matter of time as corruption and manipulation inevitably win. The reason we're seeing the same outcome around the globe is because it's essentially inevitable, it's just a question of pace.

marginalia_nu 4y ago

Depends entirely on what sort of job you have. Wage slavery is definitely a thing. Living paycheck to paycheck, barely being able to afford food and rent, with no real options is materially indistinguishable from slavery. Nobody wants to do these jobs. They're doing them because they're given no other option.

throwaway4aday 4y ago
That's due to a lack of competition among employers. Corporations have been given too much leeway and should be restricted in their reach and forcibly broken up. International corporations should be banned in both directions. If you fix the economy so that it's not possible for companies to commit arbitrage resulting in money both flowing out of the country as well as concentrating at the top then economic mobility would be achievable by all who were willing to put the effort in.
- marginalia_nu 4y ago
  Can this be demonstrated true? Where has this fix been tried to success? Where is this capitalist utopia where nobody dreads going to work.
  - throwaway4aday 4y ago
    There will always be discontents but just looking back over the history of most Western nations will give you pretty striking examples of success before various forces of corruption took hold. We currently live in a utopia when compared to our collective past, it could be much better but that doesn't mean we're not far up the slope of progress.
- Llamamoe 4y ago
  As long as we live in a system where the rich intrinsically have more power and the incentive to use it to squeeze more wealth out of others, this will be at best playing whack-a-mole and at worst a matter of time as corruption and manipulation inevitably win. The reason we're seeing the same outcome around the globe is because it's essentially inevitable, it's just a question of pace.