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It sounds like there could be selection bias in those numbers, so I’m not sure that can be extrapolated. I’d expect that the percentage of vans driven by profes

• Brybry 4y ago
  They separate out minivans from large vans and both types of vans are still some of the safest vehicles. You could also ignore vans entirely and look at compact cars (the worst of the passenger vehicles) and it's still a bad look for motorcycles. I don't know that driver quality really matters here. If you're hit by an SUV or a truck (which is what most americans buy) when you're on a motorcycle it's going to be a worse time than if you're in a vehicle with airbags and crumple zones.
• acdha 4y ago
  Motorcycles in particular famously have a curve where older people buy them after not riding for a while. I remember seeing a chart showing crashes as a function of recent driver experience and it was IIRC the first 2-3 years which had the highest fatality rate by a surprising margin.
  • dsfyu404ed 4y ago
    Kids are out of college, house is paid for, nest egg is funded, wife finally lets husband take up his old "dangerous" hobby again. (I'm joking, but also not joking). Also don't forget about all the young guys who are riding spiritedly everywhere. Even if you're good the inherent risk of that is high and given enough exposure...
    • acdha 4y ago
      That was basically how I heard it from an EMT: guy buys a Harley when he can actually afford it, and wants to ride like he’s 20 but whatever experience he had has atrophied over a couple decades and now his eyesight and reflexes are worse, too.