3 ms·

While I’m a big fan of your work and have been deeply both entertained and educated by your presentation skills, an unfortunate and concerning observation is th

While I’m a big fan of your work and have been deeply both entertained and educated by your presentation skills, an unfortunate and concerning observation is that the products that you’ve championed generally failed to see adoption in the mass market, and it may be due to the overtly technical focus, which is not bad in of itself but lengthens the time to market. Perhaps a more pragmatic approach may be to release an iteration of the product before improving on it. I say this not to detract from your work but because I’d genuinely like to see companies opting into self-hosted hardware as Oxide envisions. The centralization of all internet services into three big cloud vendors does not bode well for society.

naikrovek 4y ago
it's ok for Bryan to work on things that he believes have value. given his skills and experience compared to anyone I've worked with (at least at the time that I worked with them) I would trust what Bryan puts his weight behind over the internet's techno-fetish of the month, any day.
- supriyo-biswas 4y ago
  I don’t disagree with any part of your comment — however, it is sad that technologically superior solutions that Bryan has worked on “lost”. As an example, Manta/Triton had an objectively better model, and yet it is sad that we’re all stuck with S3 like storages today.
  - naikrovek 4y ago
    sometimes "good enough" wins, even when something better is available. you must always work on things that have value to you, even if those things are unknown or unpopular. not because they are unknown or unpopular, but because they are the right solution for you. the amount of homogeny that I see today staggers me. people don't seem to be solving their actual problems, but instead are twisting their problems so that the commonly deployed solutions fit. Oxide seem to be developing solutions for people that have problems which the common solutions can not address, no matter how much you twist them.
bcantrill 4y ago
While I appreciate the kind words, I don't really agree with your analysis of my career, for whatever it's worth. ;) In terms of Oxide: I can assure you that we are shipping the minimum viable product -- the challenge is that the minimum viable product is very (very!) large. (And indeed, the projections we made in our initial investor deck were far more accurate than they had any business being!) Glad to hear that you're cheering us on, and thanks again for the kind words!
- panick21_ 4y ago
  Fishworks made a lot of money for Oracle, if that's not success I don't know what is. PS: I would really love an episode about Sun deciding to go to bed with AT&T and merge and BSD and System V. That seem to cast a long shadow and must have left some scars.

naikrovek 4y ago

it's ok for Bryan to work on things that he believes have value. given his skills and experience compared to anyone I've worked with (at least at the time that I worked with them) I would trust what Bryan puts his weight behind over the internet's techno-fetish of the month, any day.

supriyo-biswas 4y ago
I don’t disagree with any part of your comment — however, it is sad that technologically superior solutions that Bryan has worked on “lost”. As an example, Manta/Triton had an objectively better model, and yet it is sad that we’re all stuck with S3 like storages today.
- naikrovek 4y ago
  sometimes "good enough" wins, even when something better is available. you must always work on things that have value to you, even if those things are unknown or unpopular. not because they are unknown or unpopular, but because they are the right solution for you. the amount of homogeny that I see today staggers me. people don't seem to be solving their actual problems, but instead are twisting their problems so that the commonly deployed solutions fit. Oxide seem to be developing solutions for people that have problems which the common solutions can not address, no matter how much you twist them.

bcantrill 4y ago

While I appreciate the kind words, I don't really agree with your analysis of my career, for whatever it's worth. ;) In terms of Oxide: I can assure you that we are shipping the minimum viable product -- the challenge is that the minimum viable product is very (very!) large. (And indeed, the projections we made in our initial investor deck were far more accurate than they had any business being!) Glad to hear that you're cheering us on, and thanks again for the kind words!

panick21_ 4y ago
Fishworks made a lot of money for Oracle, if that's not success I don't know what is. PS: I would really love an episode about Sun deciding to go to bed with AT&T and merge and BSD and System V. That seem to cast a long shadow and must have left some scars.