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> Aboriginals, not unlike Native Americans, reject any attempt to explain their origin via science as they stick to the story of their origin that comes from th

by girvo 4y ago

> Aboriginals, not unlike Native Americans, reject any attempt to explain their origin via science as they stick to the story of their origin that comes from their religion, and see the science based origin as disrespectful. No, they do not all do this, and I'd caution you on speaking for a people that aren't a monolith within their mobs in the first place.

thomasfromcdnjs 4y ago
Aha I thought about replying to the parent comment. (Long time no see)
- girvo 4y ago
  Haha hows it going mate! There's a lot of sweeping generalisations in this thread. Should be expected considering the audience, I guess, but it's still disappointing
Zurrrrr 4y ago
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- girvo 4y ago
  Right, so you're allowed to spout whatever idiocy you want, but others aren't allowed to call you on it. Sounds about right. You grew up in Aus apparently, but seem to have very little understand of ATSI culture and how diverse it is. Come work with my partner at IUIH and then generalise the way you have been. Generalise disparate groups of people elsewhere. And shove off with your thought terminating cliches: it's not pearl clutching, it's educating you, because you apparently require it.
  - Zurrrrr 4y ago
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    - dawdaway 4y ago
      Your point was hardly "real" either bucko, you ascribe a large group of people with a specific belief (without any citations) and then try to skip out of any culpability by saying its a generalisation.
      - Zurrrrr 4y ago
        lol, ok champ.
        dawdaway 4y ago
        Another informative and education comment. Clever as roo shit you are.
        Zurrrrr 4y ago
        You seem like one of those insecure types who need to have the last word, so it's all yours buddy. Enjoy, and I hope you get whatever feeling it is you're seeking by doing so. Best of luck to you in life kiddo. Cheers.
        dawdaway 4y ago
        Thanks mate, I'll happily take the last word. After all, how else would I heal those insecurities your have so poignantly diagnosed? You seem incapable of doing anything other than dismissing anyone who raises any flaws with your logic. I sincerely hope you grow as a person. Best of luck to you in life, Ole Fella. Cheers.
riatin 4y ago
Would assume you're of or closely affiliated with Aboriginal heritage given the phrasing. My assessment of this is that if this were to become part of the established history of indigenous Australians, quite a bit of the narrative around 'ownership' changes dramatically.
- dawdaway 4y ago
  I doubt it, either way they were here before Europeans who declared them non-human and assumed ownership of the landmass based on that declaration.
  - defrost 4y ago
    For the international audience, that UK assumption of "Terra Nullus" was knocked back and overturned by the Mabo decision of 1992: In Mabo v. Queensland (No. 2), judgments of the High Court inserted the legal doctrine of native title into Australian law. The High Court recognised the fact that Indigenous peoples had lived in Australia for thousands of years and enjoyed rights to their land according to their own laws and customs. https://aiatsis.gov.au/explore/mabo-case https://aiatsis.gov.au/explore/mabo-case
  - ROTMetro 4y ago
    I'm sorry, did all Europeans declare them non-human? What a sweeping weak sauce generalization about an entire group of people.
    - dawdaway 4y ago
      Ahh, sweet gotcha you found there fella. I don't think I need to explain to you the difference between members of the British government declaring Australia Terra-Nulius (with approximately 0 outcry from their citizens) and some bozo deciding that all Indigenous Australians don't believe in science. If you cant see the difference it's only because you choose not to.
- girvo 4y ago
  It doesn’t, though. It doesn’t matter if they’re genetically intermixed with Indians at some point in the last few thousand years. They were still here before White Australia was. And where I live, we still fought wars to eradicate the local mobs. We still stole children from them, not that long ago.

by girvo 4y ago

thomasfromcdnjs 4y ago

Aha I thought about replying to the parent comment. (Long time no see)

girvo 4y ago
Haha hows it going mate! There's a lot of sweeping generalisations in this thread. Should be expected considering the audience, I guess, but it's still disappointing

Zurrrrr 4y ago

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girvo 4y ago
Right, so you're allowed to spout whatever idiocy you want, but others aren't allowed to call you on it. Sounds about right. You grew up in Aus apparently, but seem to have very little understand of ATSI culture and how diverse it is. Come work with my partner at IUIH and then generalise the way you have been. Generalise disparate groups of people elsewhere. And shove off with your thought terminating cliches: it's not pearl clutching, it's educating you, because you apparently require it.
- Zurrrrr 4y ago
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  - dawdaway 4y ago
    Your point was hardly "real" either bucko, you ascribe a large group of people with a specific belief (without any citations) and then try to skip out of any culpability by saying its a generalisation.
    - Zurrrrr 4y ago
      lol, ok champ.
      - dawdaway 4y ago
        Another informative and education comment. Clever as roo shit you are.
        Zurrrrr 4y ago
        You seem like one of those insecure types who need to have the last word, so it's all yours buddy. Enjoy, and I hope you get whatever feeling it is you're seeking by doing so. Best of luck to you in life kiddo. Cheers.
        dawdaway 4y ago
        Thanks mate, I'll happily take the last word. After all, how else would I heal those insecurities your have so poignantly diagnosed? You seem incapable of doing anything other than dismissing anyone who raises any flaws with your logic. I sincerely hope you grow as a person. Best of luck to you in life, Ole Fella. Cheers.

riatin 4y ago

Would assume you're of or closely affiliated with Aboriginal heritage given the phrasing. My assessment of this is that if this were to become part of the established history of indigenous Australians, quite a bit of the narrative around 'ownership' changes dramatically.

dawdaway 4y ago
I doubt it, either way they were here before Europeans who declared them non-human and assumed ownership of the landmass based on that declaration.
- defrost 4y ago
  For the international audience, that UK assumption of "Terra Nullus" was knocked back and overturned by the Mabo decision of 1992: In Mabo v. Queensland (No. 2), judgments of the High Court inserted the legal doctrine of native title into Australian law. The High Court recognised the fact that Indigenous peoples had lived in Australia for thousands of years and enjoyed rights to their land according to their own laws and customs. https://aiatsis.gov.au/explore/mabo-case https://aiatsis.gov.au/explore/mabo-case
- ROTMetro 4y ago
  I'm sorry, did all Europeans declare them non-human? What a sweeping weak sauce generalization about an entire group of people.
  - dawdaway 4y ago
    Ahh, sweet gotcha you found there fella. I don't think I need to explain to you the difference between members of the British government declaring Australia Terra-Nulius (with approximately 0 outcry from their citizens) and some bozo deciding that all Indigenous Australians don't believe in science. If you cant see the difference it's only because you choose not to.
girvo 4y ago
It doesn’t, though. It doesn’t matter if they’re genetically intermixed with Indians at some point in the last few thousand years. They were still here before White Australia was. And where I live, we still fought wars to eradicate the local mobs. We still stole children from them, not that long ago.